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$2 Billion Fines/Penalties for Emission Defeat Services

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  1. todd cloud

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    Does this have anything to do with the 458/488/F8? Did I miss something?
     
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  3. todd cloud

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    GPF delete on F8 = emission defeat device, the subject of the article
     
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    Gotcha. I'm not familiar with that. I was wondering what deleting diesel emissions had to do with Ferrari LOL.
     
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    Rolling coal is definitely more dramatic, but the underlying illegality is the same for a GPF delete
     
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  7. todd cloud

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    $2B has to hurt even a company the size of eBay
    that is a lot of coin
     
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    We will see. There is a lot of legal language with selling on Ebay that puts the burden on the Seller.....not Ebay. The Seller agrees to it before their listing goes live. Once Ebay is notified by the government it will take proactive steps but other than the clickbait DOJ headline........my money is on Ebay. Ebay can no more be responsible for content than any other social media or ecommerce platform.


    So it took EPA and DOJ 2015 to 2023 to figure out this was happening? Isn't that the bigger problem?
     
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    eBay will be a worthy adversary to the DOJ and EPA
    Until now they have been hammering mid-west redneck small businesses selling these defeat devices
    Not a fair fight
     
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    Good, no GPF delete is anywhere near what diesels are doing.
     
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    Todd please stfu
     
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    Get back in your Kia
     
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    I'm going to put sport cats on it just for you. Really get those hamsters running in there and bring the HP up to a peak 100.
     
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    I believe some states will clamp down more on these emissions delete mod's than others. Here is Florida there is no state emissions inspection. A lot of exotic car and sports cars, diesel pick up trucks and on and on remove the cat's, do tunes, run straight pipes and there is zero law enforcement on these mod's.
    It' like all the exotic cars around here run Montana plates.... zero enforcement. I can't tell you how many "dudes" approach me and tell me how much money I am wasting with my Florida plate on my Ferrari...LOL
     
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    In order to “roll coal” you also have to dump about a gallon of used motor oil in your fuel tank. Not just delete the emissions. Old diesels made smoke before ultra low sulfur diesel was the standard. It’s not the emissions junk that stopped that.
     
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    love the old Kia commercials
    Check out the iPod about half way through

     
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