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  1. jimmyb

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    #8226 jimmyb, Oct 27, 2023
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    Funny how anyone that disagrees with Giallo, Bas, Absostone, Furoni is a "troll" and subject to attack that is ignored.
    Of course, I was "lobotomized" so I had my 17 year old type this for me.

    It's curious how Red Bull wins 4 WDC/WCC's in a row and is now on a streak of 3 in a row (and counting) but not a peep about them (Red Bull) driving the FIA wagon.
    Oh right, Hamilton doesn't drive for Red Bull. Silly me.

    PS. William is correct. There are rules/actions IN PLACE for teams to deal with things they consider unfair/disagree with. Whining to the media is not one of them.
     
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  2. absostone

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    So Merc would rather take a dq than be slow? This is the news im reading. Is this what totto and dorothy are all about? Oh yeah cheaters
     
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  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    It's also hilarious when you ask for any proof that teams were against whatever you ask for, and it gets given, you move the goalpost, brush it aside, or start moaning that whatever the disagreement was about, is now constituted an attack.
     
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    Who in his perfect state of mind would ever desagree with me if not a Troll!!!!!?????
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No point "being against something", and then complain when it happens, if you haven't done anything about with all the means available.

    All the teams did was to go to the media to gather public opinion on their side.
    But the battle should have taken place at the FIA, starting with a protest, followed by an appeal against the directive, then a warning of no compliance, and a notice of strike if the FIA refused to move. Nine teams against one, they were certain to win!
    The teams did none of that !!
     
  6. jimmyb

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    #8231 jimmyb, Oct 28, 2023
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    And what did these teams do about it? As William and I both pointed out numerous times, there is NO proof that the teams ever dealt with their complaints directly to the FIA.
    All they did was whine to the media. I didn’t move the goal posts at all. You and your boys seem to think that whining to the media is the same as taking ACTION through the FIA…

    I was told I was “lobotomized” by one your boys. I’d call that an attack, what about you?
    Right
     
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  7. Bas

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    you're asking for things that doesn't exist because it very, very rarely happens at all, and I'm pretty sure NEVER has happened when the FIA pushes something through using Safety as a primary motivation, as they know it's an unwinnable case, that takes so long that even if they could win, the season is long over.

    You asked for proof. The goalpost was then moved to legal action.

    Well you yourself have been very keen to accuse anyone that disagrees with you of being a racist so there's that, or a week ago with a rather polarizing figure that could well be called the most hated figure in the world for a good portion of people.

    So yeah, don't go crying wolf now.
     
  8. jpalmito

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    Back on topic,
    Better for George to react promptly because Lewis is mentally recovering from his post 2021 drama.
     
  9. jimmyb

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    This isn't an issue of disagreeing with me, you are more than welcome to disagree with me. No one died and made me king. But, as far as "racist" implications by members of your little gang, go back and read some of Abostone's comments. And learn the difference between "act" and "react".
    And it's awfully convenient to use the excuse that there's a system in place but we (the teams) decided to NOT use that system because it's too much work so we'll just play it out in the court of public opinion. Which, in this case, accomplished nothing except to further feed the conspiracy theory that M-B has some hold on the FIA.

    In the end, all of this fluff is just camo for the REAL point:
    Your little gang of five hate Hamilton SO MUCH that you will use any situation (real or invented) to bring him down. How's that worked so far?
     
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  10. absostone

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    In your mind anything anyone says against saint ham is a racist comment. We bring him down because all of you keep him on an alter. simple as that.
     
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  11. ktu

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    Sir Lewis Hamilton was already on an alter before we knew who he was. Impossible for you all to bring Sir Lewis Hamilton down. He has F1 championships. We talk about F1.
     
  12. jimmyb

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    Again, I react, I don’t act.
    You know what you’ve written as does everyone else. And if you don’t know how it comes across, well, that’s on you.
    As far as lumping me in the “Lewis can do no wrong” group, try again. I don’t proclaim him the GOAT, I simply react to the ridiculous crap that you guys spew.
     
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  13. absostone

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    Dimitri I can write anything I’d like. But yet you want to accuse me of racism? Careful you’ll get reported.
     
  14. absostone

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    Actually. I’ll put you on ignore.
     
  15. Bas

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    So it's guilty by association now as well? This is just getting better by the day :rolleyes:

    Isn't it convenient that you move the goal post after getting what you asked for? But again ignore it? Especially when pointed out the length and likelyhood of losing such a case anyways? But ok, fine, lets go by those rules from now on. I'll keep that in mind.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean with the last bit...how it worked out? All I do is point out the hypocrisy which I find quite funny.
     
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    #8241 jimmyb, Oct 29, 2023
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    ^^^
    I asked for proof that the teams had done something (anything) within what is afforded them by FIA rules. You came back with “it wouldn’t do any good” or something to that effect, which, of course, we’ll never know since none of the teams did it.
    It’s that simple.
    What’s funny (actually sad) is you guys want so desperately to be on the right side of this and yet reality keeps rearing it’s head.

    PS. What’s the theory of you and your pals aboutRed Bull? Clearly they (Red Bull) have some hold on the FIA…seeing as how Max was gifted the 2021 WDC and the car is dominant week end/week out to a level that M-B never sniffed???
     
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    Great race again from Lewis.
    What a season he’s doing compared with Russell !
     
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  18. william

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    What I cannot understand in this instance, and on a topic that really affected them, why the team principals, as responsible CEO of large companies, didn't decide to use the proper channels offered to them to put their grievance.
    Instead they gambled on media pressure to force the FIA to make a U-turn on its decision, and then went whining when it didn't happened.
     
  19. Phil~

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    Ham is destroying Russell. He's going back to his 2020 form.
    Just needs the car now.
     
  20. william

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    Just a few seasons ago, Russell was seen as the best candidate to take over from Hamilton at Mercedes.
     
  21. Bas

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    I liked his comment in the cool down room "Perez did a me in Qatar"

    Wish he could be more like that rather than the Hollywood persona he gives 99% of the time.
     
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    Credit where it's due: Hamilton drove a great, clean race in Mexico today. He did a fantastic job on those medium tires after the red flag.

    Kudos!
     
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  23. fatbillybob

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    Lewis is back! He would have been DOD but Lando...if McLaren can build a car...I hope for a 3way fight in 2024.
     
  24. Temerian

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    Hamilton showed once again how good he is at race and tire management. Clearly the better driver on his team.
     
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  25. william

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    Hamilton's tyre management has been his strength through most of his career.
    I remember him winning races just because he had better taken care of his tyres than his rival, made them last longer or winning a race without making the last pitstop everyone expected him to do.
     
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