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Perez dismisses rumours as 'nonsense': 'Max and I have the same car' (gpblog.com)

 

Sure he said that. It’s the team he’s on. What’s he supposed to do, out the differences and explain how Max’s RB is so much faster than the field? He also said he isn’t concerned about losing his ride which is kinda ridiculous all things considered.

https://www.formulanerds.com/news/perez-answers-rumours-not-worried-about-any-of-that/

 

Both Red Bulls are absolutely identicals.
Some have difficulties to understand what kind of driver Verstappen has become..

 

I fully agree and just don’t get it. Is it due to a weak car or is Charles too « sweat » too gentle for the job ? Yes he is fast and is a talented driver but does he not lack this « killer » instinct needed to be a World Champion ?

 

Do you have any proof whatsoever that the cars aren't identical?

I can take out the same thing I've done before that completely debunk your theory, but not quite sure I have the energy to do so just yet. Can you even give a single, well thought out possible reason why Red Bull would intentionally give Perez a worse car?

top speeds are the same in sessions, acceleration is the same.

When you analyze the laps then you see where the difference is.

Perez is a B tier driver making countless mistakes all season long against an S tier driver who has been faultless.

 

Much like FA he can adapt a cars capability to his driving style, ie, he uses the style needed to maximize the cars potential. Checo does not have much if any of that. He is so Kimi-esque but certainly much more mistake and accident prone than Kimi. The cars are the same and financially NO team can make 2 cars to run at the same time.

 

Not “worse” but different. Teams routinely provide more support to one driver over another. One car gets initial design and the development along with incremental improvements that are focused on to align the car with top drivers style over the other. There’s always the “second seat” guy/car and it’s obvious RB puts the best effort behind Max because of the two RB drivers he’s the better one. In fact, according to Max’s last teammate Alex Albon RB did that exact thing while he was there too:

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/7521720/f1-alex-albon-max-verstappen-team-mate/amp/


Obviously Max is a smooth, calculated, and great driver but without the dominant car in the field he isn’t winning anywhere near the races he’s winning with the RB19. Even he has admitted it’s heavily the car (“Of course, everyone can see and I also know that we have the best car”) but that hasn’t stopped his fans from saying it’s down to his dominance as a driver. To me, Juan Pablo Montoya got it right when he said “Max is a very good driver, but for now he has the best car. Verstappen’s speed right now is no higher than it was two years ago, it’s probably the same. Only that the car is much faster.” Put Max in any other car in the field and see if he gets 16 wins in a season.

 

You would think that a car capable ot taking 11 Poles would also take a few wins.

Every time it's a flash in the pan for Ferrari, ending in deception; their cars don't stay at the front.

 

Same problem since 2022.
This is not related to the brand Ferrari but more so to their 2022 aero and mechanical concept ( which is the same in 2023)

 

But that's the same for any team though...they all prioritize their lead driver with the newest parts if a full haul of all parts isn't available that weekend yet.

With fewer upgrades allowed these days, parts are more often than not available at the same time...For almost all weekends, the RB have been identical cars.

The first bit is true of course, for any driver...no driver can win this amount of races in a season without it being the best car. But I seriously doubt that we can put any driver in the Red Bull and see him win as many races as Max has in one season. His consistency really is unheard off...and he was showing that long before he got into a dominant car. That's the nature of F1 though. The best car tends to win. The best car and best driver, will win a lot. The best car, with the best driver...who then refuses to make mistakes and be stupidly consistent, will just absolutely decimate the competition.

Had Red Bull put 2 Perez's in the car we'd actually be watching a very close season.

There have been quite a few of us fans and well educated commentators, ex F1 drivers alike who said the same thing about Max before 2021, how insanely talented he is and quite frankly, it would be a shame if he does get a dominant car because we wouldn't be witnessing the excellent drives through the field and fighting faster cars any longer. I do believe Martin Brundle said it around 2019ish during a race somewhere, he both wants to see Max in a dominant car but also doesn't, because of how boring it would likely be with him driving on his own, well clear of the rest.

Well...we have the result now, and Martin is absolutely right.

 

Not really. It's all in the heat cycle of the tires. Ferrari for years get the most of theirs early in the stint, while others get theirs in the middle and late part of their stints. Hence, it's much easier for Ferrari to take pole position.

It's not really a problem for a car to fade faster than others late in a stint, but where Ferrari have had issues is maintaining pace in the middle of their heat cycle. It does seem like since the summer break they've gotten much stronger pace in their middle of their stints. They were able to go deep on the first stints, and had the red flag not come out, I reckon their 1 stop strategy would've left Leclerc in front of Ham.

 

One can imagine the silence had Sergio damanged or taken MaxBull out?? Since Max was untouched and won easily what good is the time or words to blame the idiot in the other seat. Perez should have been penalized to begin with booted 5 spots down in Brazil.

Horner “can’t blame” Perez for F1 Mexico GP Turn 1 move
Red Bull Formula 1 boss Christian Horner has said he “can’t blame” Sergio Perez for the ambitious Turn 1 move that put him out of his home race in Mexico.

 

I think some people here are missing the bigger picture.

Ferrari this year are having to learn how to extract the most performance out of a car that is off the lead pace, through experimenting with new set-up concepts, and adapting the strategy to what their car is capable of. Since the summer break the turnaround has been very welcome, imho. Straight line speed that is consistent, better balance, logical strategy, and realistic goals.

I'm liking Vasseur's approach.

 

"The Mob is fickle brother" - But in this instance they are not wrong lol

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Sergio Perez

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Tyres: M (1 Laps)

In his hubris, admitted to "only thinking of winning" into Turn 1. Seemed to expect Leclerc to disappear, and made no real accommodation for other cars while turning in, yielding a clash that produced a seismic crowd reaction. Gets one point for his excellent getaway, and the other for having a go. A wasted opportunity, otherwise.

Autosport.com rating
2

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2.17

 

that's a generous scoring even calculating in his getaway.

 

agree

 

My guess? Perez is retiring at the end of the season, already let the team know, and this is Horner not kicking a dog when he's down

 

The cars may be identical, but the drivers are not.
Also, even in the same team, there are different strategies at play (if only for the pit stops), sometimes difference in the settings, and it's difficult to give the same support to 2 drivers, mostly if one is bringing results, and the other not. Verstappen is probably closer to the management than Perez and privy to some information. Verstappen doesn't need mollycoddling, and is probably stronger mentally.

Perez is kidding himself, IMO, repeating that he has full support from Horner and Marko. That's PR talks, never to be taken seriously.
I am sure these 2 were absolutely aghast by the 1st corner incident and Perez ignominous exit. His career took another turn at that moment, I fear.

The question is: will RB honour their contract and keep Perez next year, or unceremoniously drop him at the end of this season, now that Ricciardo has redeemed himself in their eyes?

 

But you have to admit that on the whole Max has more wins than Ferrari, so the discrepancy isn't so flagrant.

 

PR talks as usual.

 

Ouch LOL

 

Interesting possibility!

 

French tv ( usually well informed) said yesterday there is a strong rumor that Perez will be fired at the end of the season.