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Lotus Emira

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  1. BJK

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    V6 car



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  2. Innovativethinker

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    Anyone in the US get one ?

    I know they said October, and it’s November now
     
  3. c8spidey

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    Not a hint from my dealer about my order yet.
    My guess is reported quality issues in UK would be less tolerated here considering the more stringent lemon laws and consumer advocacy here in US
     
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  4. spike308

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    I inquired recently...
    was told I could come in and put an order in...
    sales guy expressed frustration with the whole process. They can not track orders.

    I asked for and got my deposit back.
    tired of waiting. tired of no communication (not really the dealers fault).
    price went up... so not really the "bargain".
    For >110K + taxes.... I'll get a used 911. Solid car with ubiquitous parts.
    Lotus... quirky car, poor service, not a great track record on a lot of things, parts will probably be an issue if something goes wrong...
    plus, Lotus has joined the suicide pact of "no more ICE"....
    how many "premium" battery car companies can the world support?? - probably not a lot, and definitely NOT Lotus.
    my guess is the go belly up again in the next few years...
     
  5. kestrou

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    I wish you were wrong, but I think you’re right…

    I bailed on Lotus a few years ago - Ferrari has its quirks, but they have their ****e (pretty much) together.

    Kevin
     
  6. luvair

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    They’ve told me before the end of the year.

    Lotus is trying to get approval by the California Air Resources Board. Should have been simple since the drive train is identical to the already approved Evora. Apparently fourteen other states have adopted the CARB standards so Lotus wants to satisfy all states in the US.
     
  7. jjmalez

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    If they told you wolverines would make good house pets, would you believe them?
     
  8. luvair

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    Just more positive than you with my dealer.

    Most manufactures are missing their prior target dates.
     
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  9. spike308

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    to order
    or to have in your driveway>?
     
  10. luvair

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    Shipped to my US dealer.
    To the US EOY.
     
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  11. spike308

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    are you getting a first edition?
    what # were you on the wait list?
     
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  12. Flash G

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    Apparently, British Emira buyers are getting hammered by Maserati-like depreciation already in the resale market.

    No idea if that will happen here, but there’s already a glut of used ones there getting price chopped each week.
     
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  13. peterp

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    That's seems like a rare "double bonus" for impatient/frustrated wait-listers -- immediacy and massive savings.

    Seems like they would be snapped up quickly by those tired of waiting (which, in normal markets, would at least temporarily slow the depreciation curve).
     
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  14. Robb

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    It’s a lotus. Fast depreciation guaranteed.

    but I order to spec and wait if possible.

    Robb
     
  15. plastique999

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    Checked with my dealer, my car is awaiting CARB cert. I’m in the first round of deliveries for Galpin.


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  16. spike308

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    it is in the US?
    any idea when you'll get it?
     
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  17. OSUferrari

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    My car has been confirmed it is in the US (in Maryland). But I won’t get it till early February because they have to wait until the BS paperwork is done. Still excited to get it.
     
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  18. plastique999

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    Yes, I’m in SoCal.
    Well, I think it all depends on the CARB cert…. I am friends with one of the National Managers of Lotus, when I used to race in LotusCupUSA, and even he doesn’t have a specific time frame… guessing Jan/Feb, but who knows.


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  19. plastique999

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  21. plastique999

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    Can’t wait!!


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  22. Robb

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    Amazing. I can’t believe my eyes…

    Robb
     
  23. boxerman

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    Very well put.
    I can tell you the parts thing, if the aftermarket does not make it, then you need to know a dealer in Uk who can oick up,parts from the fcatory and airfreight them. Lotus USA is useless,and they're only interested in the electric future.

    Going belly up will be a godsend, as lotus can be saved and reboot.
    meanwhile the greatest modern lotus is the alpine A110, and caterham still makes the classic lotus, if only Theo could take over the elige program all would be right witht he world.
     
  24. Flash G

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    Lotus Hasn’t Delivered a Single Emira in the U.S. Yet Because of California
    The brand's final gas-powered model doesn't meet the emission standard used by 14 states.
    Bryan HoodPublished on January 26, 2024
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    We finally know why the Lotus Emira hasn’t gone on sale in the U.S.

    No, part shortages and production issues aren’t to blame. Instead, Automotive News reports that it’s the state of California to blame. That’s because the Chinese-owned British marque’s final gas-powered model doesn’t meet California’s emissions standards yet.

    The Emira was unveiled all the way back in 2021 and was supposed to go on sale here in 2022. That may not have happened yet, but the $100,000 coupé has already begun crossing the Atlantic and even made it to dealerships, they just can’t sell the sports car or deliver it to customers. The reason is that the automaker, which is owned by Geely, is still waiting to get the sign-off to sell the car from the California Air Resource Board (CARB).

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    That’s a big problem for Lotus because California is the most populous state and because 13 other states, including New York and New Jersey, follow CARB emission rules. The other 36 states in the union follow Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) rules, but the car can’t be sold there either, because it could then be flipped to someone in a CARB state, according to Motor1.com. The driver in the CARB state would be unable to register the vehicle since it does not meet local statutes.

    The hang-up is a bit of an odd one for Lotus, because it’s previously sold a car in the U.S. with the same exact mill. The Emira’s engine is a Toyota-sourced 3.5-liter 2GR-FE V-6 with an Edelbrock 1740 supercharger. The setup produces 400 hp and 310 ft lbs of torque, which is slightly less than the 416 hp and 317 ft lbs of torque it produced in the Evora GT. The Emira’s powertrain even revs at a lower rate (6,800 rpm compared to 7,200 rpm). Eventually, the newer model will also be available with a Mercedes-AMG-sourced turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four that generates 360 hp and 317 ft lbs of torque.

    Lotus told Automotive News that it has applied a software update to the Emira’s powertrain that should allow it to meet CARB standards. That process, which included road tests of the vehicle, is now complete, so the next move it’s now up to the agency to certify the vehicle. The automaker is hopeful that will happen soon, but, for now, the delay continues.
     
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