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  1. khal360

    khal360 Formula Junior

    Feb 17, 2005
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    Although the f12 is a beautiful car the 812 drives so much better on track. The f12 was too soft for aggressive driving vs the 812. I’ve driven the f12 and my 812gts on the same track and there is a substantial difference. In my opinion they are both beautiful cars and will age well. Let’s see what April holds for us.
     
  2. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
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    I am sorry, but I have to point out that this is a fallacy. Every racing driver on this planet will vouch that a benign racing car is a good racing car. I don't know why people think that a racing car is recalcitrant...
     
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  3. j09333

    j09333 Formula 3
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    812 C is better 812
    tdf is not better F12
    It just wears same suit as F12
    tdf drives totally different.

    Is it better over all than 812C? No. Would I drive it over 812C? Everytime.

    It is so damn special to drive. Brutal Italian muscle car. One misstep and you are doomed lol. Just make me laugh.


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  4. 599freak

    599freak Karting

    Mar 12, 2008
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    Will there be a convertible offered for the F167? Is it confirmed?
     
  5. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    dayy355 posted the below a few days ago.
    "so, I'm summarizing one last time, F167 is the internal codename for the replacement of the 812, will have an NA V12 and will be unveiled mid 2024 for the coupe".
     
  6. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
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    Comparing any of these cars to an actual race car is strange. They are soft and heavy street cars. Tracking a car is a good benchmark as long as there is an actual competition with a checkered flag and a trophy issued. Otherwise, just a street without street lights. These are excellent mid-front NA V12 street cars of considerable value and great leather smell. Only one of the four has engine looks to match engine performance.
     
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  7. omercan

    omercan Formula Junior
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    After rejecting 812, he bought a carrera for himself. Why are you here, my friend?
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  8. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

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    Previous posts suggest there will also be a gts version
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  9. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Normally the GTS comes 18 - 24 months later
     
  10. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Again: Launch May 2024 during the Miami F1 GP.
    Same week when the International Cavalcade will take place there.

    Marcel Massini
     
  11. isot

    isot Formula 3

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    Yes, RHT.
     
  12. JackCongo

    JackCongo Formula Junior
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    This time it may come earlier. I was told 6 months later FWIW.
     
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  13. Spet00

    Spet00 Formula Junior

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    Could it be possible that the timeline has changed, due to the recent changes to the Euro 7 directive? Before they had to rush to get it done, so 6 months after F167's launch would still be in 2024. Doesn't the new changes to the directive give them more time, and therefore allows them to hold out on the launch for longer?

    Disclaimer: Just a wild thought. I have no inside knowledge about it
     
  14. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
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    275 inspiration was for 550;) :


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  15. ohno

    ohno Formula Junior

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    “Designing a Ferrari is very complicated because the one side it’s a brand having as a tradition not being tradition. Which means that somehow you need to respect the very long and tough history tend the past and at the same time you need to find something new that’s part of the tradition of the brand to unveil something new. So it’s a combination of to in something futuristic but at the same time having a link with the heritage, the strong heritage of the brand is very complicated to find.
    This balance is very, very subtle.“ Andrea Militello (Head of GT-Cars Exterior Design)


    I´ve taken a short picture review between elements of the past (left) and current (right) a while ago. Can you name all cars?
     

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  16. babgh

    babgh Karting

    Dec 21, 2016
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    I´ve taken a short picture review between elements of the past (left) and current (right) a while ago. Can you name all cars?[/QUOTE]
    Neoclassical elements and shapes on modern ferrari cars
     
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  17. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    I was told the same by my dealer. Official release in Miami next year
     
  18. db0db0db

    db0db0db Rookie

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    April they're taking orders is what I'm told as an 812 owner but who knows. If you're a collector you'd know more.
     
  19. Condor Man

    Condor Man F1 Rookie
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  20. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
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    Classic Manzoni. Taking credit for someone else's work. Does he have one for the 250 GTO? Do like the print.
     
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  21. Dubaicity

    Dubaicity Karting

    Nov 21, 2013
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    Hmm… even though Marcel Massini is a reliable source it makes less sense to do the presentation in Miami and not in Maranello.


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  22. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Given Ferrari's continuing f1 issues it should be the last place to launch such a special car
     
  23. ab08

    ab08 Formula Junior

    Aug 28, 2007
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    Any thoughts on the design?
    A subjective opinion, within what can be said at this moment.
    Only if possible, of course.

    Thanks.
     
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  24. aobao1993

    aobao1993 Formula Junior

    Feb 3, 2017
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    What is the F167 information we currently know?Someone summarized it earlier, on which page?thx!
     
  25. Condor Man

    Condor Man F1 Rookie
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    LOL!

    Probably the opposite as it gives the customer the chance to take their eye off the GP to focus on the new car.
     

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