‘62 GTO 3765 to be auctioned at Sotheby’s NYC November 13.

The 4-Liter engine from this car still exists.

 

Thank you Dyke.
Do you know what became of it?
I always assumed the SF would have used it on another project.

 

Yes, I know where it is.

 

Fair enough.

 

What about the original transmission?

 

3765 is said to have used 2 tipo 163/566 330 4 litre engines, not just the one.

 

Look how clear it is now with all this paperwork from Ferrari, and that it was known for years, that 3765 is the Nurburgring '62 car and NOT 3673.

 

And yet still many would argue that Ferraris early Classiche program proved that Ferrari knew little of the pre 1990 history. They have gotten much better since but how much better? I know some very experienced Fchat members and some published "experts" who would argue either side of that debate. Good to see that Ferrari themselves have taken a position on the matter though.

 

Certain RM Sotheby's people did research in Italy.

Marcel Massini

 

Did JJ make any efforts to acquire it?

 

Jeff: I honestly do not know about the gearbox. I would have to do some research.

 

Just curious.

IF the original engine and the original gearbox were reunited with the car would it be appropriate to make the change? The car has a history with the current engine and gearbox as installed by the factory. I can see arguments on this in a lot of ways the same as should 3223 be restored back to the press showing iteration in the courtyard? Would one make the Breadvan back to the original SWB?

Would it be more appropriate to get the 4 liter engine and put it on a stand next to the car with a plaque stating its history?

 

The 4 litre 6 carb engine numbered 48SA is very probably in a very valuable 330 LMB which it may have had since new.

 

Assume a guarantee exists.

Marcel Massini

 

How do the two drivetrains mount to the chassis? Do they share points, or did the factory have to change the chassis when they sold it as a 250GTO? If it is as simple as pulling the three liter and bolting in the four liter, I can't see an argument against it. It provides the option for two "original" configurations. If you have to grind off old mounts and weld back in the older mounts(should they have been saved by some miracle), I would say that would close to, but not exactly as, original and it should be kept as it was sold by the factory. Keep the four litre next to it on a stand.

 

I agree with your solution if the mounts for the engine and transmission have differences. But I am not going to be a candidate buyer of this so my opinion on what should be done is of little importance.

If Steve is right in where the original engine is (330LMB) then that car should not be compromised by trying to reunite the motor with this car.

 

If the engine really is the engine that the 330LMB has had from new, I agree it should stay with it.
If 3765 did have two different 4.o liter engines before getting its 3.0 liter 250 status, than it would be of some value to have them reunited, as long as it again is not removed from a chassis that was originally built with it.

Didn't even get one number right on the last two massive PowerBall and MegaMillions drawings, so just a fun theoretical exercise for me as well.

 

2 extra mounting points on 3765 were added for the different mounting points of 3 and 4 litre engines which both have 4 projecting lug engine mounts.

See the added mounting point for the 250 3 litre tipo 128 LM 0796 engine and the redundant here 4 litre 330 tipo 163/566 mounting point.

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I find it interesting that the 3 liter motor is a 128 series and not the later 168 which was in existence by the SWB in 1960.

 

I am sure you are right but who would agree to that? You are just bidding against yourself.

 

RMSotheby's know exactly what they are doing.