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Discussion in '12Cilindri' started by Thecadster, Jun 29, 2021.

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  1. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    Hahahahaha I love that response! Responding to uncertainly by doubling down on uncertainty! Uncertainty square in maths language makes things even more uncertain…hahaha
     
  2. jumpinjohn

    jumpinjohn F1 Veteran
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    My limited time observing Ferrari new car introductions provides me with the assumption that no matter now near perfect the car will be - there will be a loud criticism and increased bemoaning of how awful the car is. “Looks pieced together from this particular angle”, “too complex”, “too simple”, “cheap materials”, “not enough power”, “too much power”, “disconnected driver feel”, and all those who love the car will be “fanboys who just buy anything Ferrari”…

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  3. WM458

    WM458 Formula Junior

    Aug 25, 2014
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    Hihi.
    I believe any new appearances that are somehow as exposed as Ferrari have this in common.
     
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  4. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    no, discontinuous
     
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  5. Newjoint

    Newjoint Formula 3

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    Unfortunately there are too many cars which meet the above criteria- and I’ve owned several of them! Human nature is to love what you have, belittle what you don’t, and more so of recent generations there are people never to be content with what they have and be jealous of what others have.
    The perfect car doesn’t exist,at least not yet, but several Ferraris have come awfully close…


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  6. Kmaaq

    Kmaaq Formula Junior

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    Good, I hope it’s interesting. I like light bars but they’ve been so overdone the last few years that, from the back, you can’t really tell which car it is at night. We need something more unique.

    I don’t think Ferrari has come up with anything better than the quad round taillights of the 812/Lusso/F8 yet. Here’s hoping for 6 round taillights, 365 BB style in the future. [emoji102]
     
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  7. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Boring. Has been done and redone.
     
  8. khal360

    khal360 Formula Junior

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    There has to be classic elements of a Ferrari to be a Ferrari. Look at Pateks from 80 years ago and still today they keep certain elements alive. That’s what a classic brand does, innovate but don’t stray too far. I for one, no matter how amazing the F167 exterior presents, if the dash and ambience is digital I’ll gladly keep my 812 GTS forever. My 2 cents of course and not disrespecting anyone.
     
  9. NGooding

    NGooding Formula 3
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    I think the imperfections in our cars can make them better in a weird way. Some flaws are just plain annoying, when they're a function of lazy design and engineering or tradeoffs in the name of economy. But at this level, I think the flaws often give the cars personality. They make them more human.
     
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  10. Kmaaq

    Kmaaq Formula Junior

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    Yes, a horizontal line is much more interesting and unique /s
     
  11. fganonimo

    fganonimo Rookie

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    agreed and same with my F12
     
  12. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    The 167 lights are exclusive to this model
     
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  13. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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  14. flat-12

    flat-12 Formula Junior

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    I really hope you are referring to the front lights. Love that unique design of the plexi Daytona.

    In former times the V12 was the more powerful and faster car compared to the V8, over the years the V12 evolved more in the direction of the classic Gran Tourismo V12 Ferrari and the V8 has become the performance oriented car with less weight, more traction, high torque and great engine power - which is fine.

    So it would make very much sense if the design of the new V12 is somehow classic and combines modern styling elements, technology but clearly shows the origin of Ferrari and the long, beautyful tradition of V12 Gran Tourismo cars.

    Did I mention how much I love the 365 GTB4 with this beautiful V12 and the great manual gearbox
     
  15. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    This kind of thinking nearly bankrupted Jaguar. Then they woke up and started designing modern cars and the firm took off! Ferrari is not Rolls Royce. Ferrari needs to be innovative and at the forefront of technology and design. Recycling old themes and being retro is a dead end road.
     
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  16. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

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    Every Ferrari will try to blend some design elements inspired by past cars with new and innovative modern design language
     
  17. Newjoint

    Newjoint Formula 3

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    Humans aren’t perfect and we rarely achieve perfection in anything we do. I agree it’s the imperfections that make cars memorable- whether it’s a Porsche 930 whipping its owner into a field for making a fatal error or a Yamaha Vmax refusing to lean into a curve and then doing it as the V boost kicks in. These were the types of imperfections which challenge the driver/rider and make you sweat and then when you’re done you want to do it again and again.
    That’s the problem with EV hypercars- apart from the weight they are perfect- hp,torque and smooth- electric motors don’t vibrate, bark, spew noxiously wonderful fumes or other unpleasantries. Appliances, like computers obsolete a year after you got one- but that’s the point- upgrade, upgrade and upgrade ad infinitum.
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  18. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Well, yes and no. I mean that some Ferraris take inspiration from the past (i.e. the 296), whereas others don't (i.e. the SF90 Stradale). I am obviously discounting the Iconas, as they are homages to past models anyway.
     
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  19. 350MH83

    350MH83 Formula 3

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    So I take it the comment on the roof is correct? Glass roof with carbon middle! That sounds great to me!
     
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  20. savio.79

    savio.79 Karting

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  21. Jonathan19

    Jonathan19 Formula 3

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    These lines are so pure, I really love it!
     
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  22. inox

    inox Formula Junior

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    Have to say, you are setting the expectations of F167 pretty high!
     
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  23. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    No comments on the roof, let's keep the surprise effect of this characteristic element:)
     
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  24. WM458

    WM458 Formula Junior

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    I hope it will not be too much of a Roma.
     
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