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  1. JJ77

    JJ77 Formula Junior

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    Ignore him.. we know how it works.
     
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  2. MaranelloAllTheWay

    Apr 30, 2023
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    What's everyone's view of 812 values if the replacement does indeed have non hybrid V12?
     
  3. asdtx

    asdtx Karting

    Jul 7, 2022
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    What are the chances of locking in an F167 for a very new Ferrari customer? Only car on the resume is the Roma (2021). Have been enjoying that car immensely but am quite optimistic for the next V12.

    Do different dealerships have different wait times?
     
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  4. daoman

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    Please forgive me if this has been discussed but is there any chance there will be a manual option?
     
  5. pk328

    pk328 Karting

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    Zero chance.
     
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  6. Jelial

    Jelial Formula Junior

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    I departed to early from my 812 for personal reasons and I'm already looking to get the F167.....I really hope will "match my desire" and can't wait to know more about it! I really miss my V12....
     
  7. v3ritatis

    v3ritatis Rookie

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    Is this also the case with entry level models like the Roma... or when the Roma 2 is released
     
  8. Kmaaq

    Kmaaq Formula Junior

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    No but if ferrari never makes a manual again I’ll make one myself before I die, hold me up to it.
     
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  9. Solid State

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    Hater! You will fall in line with the post PF design.

     
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  10. omercan

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  11. 350MH83

    350MH83 Formula 3

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    what??!? Ferraris havent come with manual gearboxes since the California I believe...
     
  12. Soleith

    Soleith Karting

    Dec 30, 2020
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    It's completely unclear at this stage. I was in a similar position to you until I bought an F12 this summer. The theory goes that if it's similar to the Purosangue then you will probably need to own a V12 Ferrari of some kind but although I've placed an "expression of interest" deposit with my dealer, allocation is of course not guaranteed and they've specifically told me that they don't know if the factory will dictate any specific requirements (likely) to the dealers of what profile of customer is allowed to buy one or not.

    My personal belief although it may prove to be incorrect is that as it is a regular series production car, people with a limited purchasing history will possibly be able to get one although it will be much later in the production run (assuming they are made for that long). My expression of interest order form indicated an estimated delivery date of 2027. The dance will be around bigger dealerships will have bigger "TOP" or "VIP" customers that will get an early allocation so people like us will be further down the queue, but also the bigger dealerships probably get more cars than some tiny dealer in the middle of nowhere so maybe it all evens out? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Best chance at this stage in my opinion is to contact your dealer and ask if they are taking deposits for the 812 replacement yet and if so put one down, which is why I did exactly that yesterday XD
     
  13. pk328

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    Not having ever purchased a new Ferrari and with only a 328 GTB in my history, I think my chances of an allocation are somewhere between zero and slim but I'm going to call my dealer anyway as it sounds like the F167 will be everything that I would ever desire in a car, one to take to the grave.
     
  14. omercan

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    Someone who last bought an F12 10 years ago cannot buy an F167. I guess you don't know Ferrari. (You can pre-order, anyone can)
     
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  15. Soleith

    Soleith Karting

    Dec 30, 2020
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    Thanks for your valuable insight. The F12 I bought last year wasn't my only Ferrari purchase. XD
     
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  16. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No. I was eager and asked a guy who knows a guy. :cool:
     
  17. 008

    008 Formula Junior

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    Was the PS limited outside the US? Locally anyone could order one.
     
  18. Chicko

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  19. omercan

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    I hope it's similar
     
  20. Frank_C

    Frank_C F1 Rookie
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    So if indeed we will be seeing the next level electronic suspension, it would be cool to now electronicmagnetohydraulically dial in a suspension setting for any past vehicle irrespective of original drivetrain layout.


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  21. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
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    Ferrari will sell 167s to the last customer who wants one. it's just a matter of waiting time
     
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  22. Deejrc

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    All I know is that if it is all things to all men and the greatest thing since sliced bread, then it will push 812 and F12 prices back down again. If F12 knocks around £100k then that will be the biggest billy bargain going.
    Soleith and I have discussed this elsewhere, but I just can’t wrap my head around the 167 being 2.5 x an F12.
     
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  23. vonbeeler

    vonbeeler Formula Junior
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    All V12’s under the 812 are rock solid on pricing and not moving lower even during uncertain times of last twelve months. So I wouldn’t be waiting.
    We all know regular production V12 might end at 167. Regardless it’s been stated even 167 will have a decent price increase which should further hold up older models imo.


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  24. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
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    All modern production V12's follow the same curve. The 812 hasn't been around long enough to bottom. The most recent always takes the biggest hit with a new release. But you shouldn't care if you love your car. ;)

    This new one is so hyped its almost a bit toxic. "All things to all men". Good grief.
     
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  25. JJ77

    JJ77 Formula Junior

    Oct 3, 2020
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    I think so, with the usual option spend this replacement will be £425k + inevitable premium for first 6 months. F12 & 812 will hold station for same 6 months and may increase slightly if “ you need to be an owner of V12 to order F167”
     
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