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    A remarkable amount of corrosion on the smaller tubes beneath the front cowl. Is the thick body filler original or something that was applied later in its life?
     
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  3. Marcel Massini

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    8815 has been repainted several times, silver, lightblue metallic, white, black, red, lightblue metallic. etc.
    It has also been parked in a not so good environment (partially humid warehouse) from 1994 until May 2018 without turning a wheel.

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  5. Marcel Massini

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    OMG: nobody cared to clean it before taking that pic. Definitely not in councours condition.

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    Thanks for all the fabulous pictures of 8815....

    Sorry to go off topic but if its the warehouse I am thinking of, there is and remains a lot of high end motorcars left to sell, few of whom have been seen or driven since the early - mid 1990s. I know RM offered some cars from this collection 2+ years ago at very high reserves and kept failing, I wonder who is the agent today?
     
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  7. Marcel Massini

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    A lawyer in D.C.

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    a most iconic car.
     
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    I imagine same or worse can be discovered on most "Vintage" era (50+ y.o.) road Ferraris which have not yet been subjected to a COMPLETE, i.e. every nut/bolt/rivet, restoration since the given car was manufactured.
     
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    that is right marcel, not concours condition, but so you see that the car has been driven and is not a staying museum car
     
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    Hello Marcel,

    I only now discover these very important pictures of the repaints on 8815. It shows that it was never painted black. If 8971 was always white then the theory of a third car might have some merit after all. Please see this link for my posts about the different details on the white car :
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/140189550/
    Especially post#42 is interesting.
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    The black doesn't show in your picture of all the layers of repaints?
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    There are NO three cars. It is two and has always been: 8815 and 8971.
    When Bud Keeney in CA owned 8815 in 1974 he had it repainted black and when he sold it to John Mecom in TX 26 January 1976 Mecom, after a while, had it repainted red. The color photo you posted (post #61) is from the FCA "Prancing Horse" magazine and shows the car in the early days of the Mecom ownership.
    Oh, btw, some of the pix posted in the other thread you mentioned are heavily photoshopped.
    (You may also want to consult the book about 8971, which current owner R.Q. and Paul Russell & Company has produced and which shows all the many upgrades, modifications and changes to 8971 since 1966.)

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    And the Texas car has 11 holes in the hood instead of 12...
     
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    And the lamps under the bumpers on 8815 and above on 8971...;)
     
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    I've Googled but can't find this book. do you have more info about the title, author, publisher? Thanks.
     
  18. Marcel Massini

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    Done by the car owner R.Q. together with restorer Paul Russell and Company.
    No way to find on google.

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    See also Ferrari Owners Club (USA) Volume 15, Number 4 from 1981.

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    So it seems I can't obtain said book. According to the owner and Paul Russell what's the story behind all the detail alterations on the body as outlined by me in this thread:
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/140189550/
    ?
    These alterations aren't insignificant and not always logical:
    - adding and removing rear spoiler (similar to the one on 8815),
    - adding one slot to the front bonnet (twelve instead of eleven),
    - removing the front indicator lights: from integrated into the body below the headlights, to separate pods mounted on top of the front bumpers,
    - moving the fuel filler cap from the rear side window to the C-pillar,
    - adding slots and vents to the engine cover,
    - different type of lock on engine cover,
    - vents added below doors,
    - different tail lights, exhausts.

    Best, Peter
     
  21. Marcel Massini

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    Here. With fabulous cover drawing by well-known fchatter Charles W. Queener.

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  22. Marcel Massini

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    Alterations are not always logical. During the early years 8971 was shown at various automobile shows all over the planet, Paris, L.A., Brussels, Geneva, Torino, London, etc..
    The softbound book about 8971 is in the format 20x20 cms, contains 40 pages, and has six or more pages about the various alterations with all details. Also included in the publication is a reproduction of the 11 September 1968 factory invoice for changes and modifications, plus a Carrozzeria Drogo invoice dated 30 September 1968.
    Below is the cover of the book which was produced in August 2021.

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    Lingotto, fantastic. Thanks for posting.
     
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    What a great video. Many thanks !
     
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