I think that the overly exposed F12/GTS exhaust mufflers on the proto are not the final config for sure. Also, the rear glass looks odd. Either a split window is there or its a GTS-style rear in coup form but the hatch has some big change to it. The rest of the car is right in front of your face if the camo car is it. The thin camo hides nothing. Looks like the fenders of the Omologata and the rocker panels and rear end of the SP51 but with linear rear lights. Manzoni always copies features from the SP cars into production along with features of previous PF models with some garish changes.
If it's the case with 850CV then another question arises whether it might be a 4WD layout this time around with so much power...
I use to think you needed 4WD to put so much power down but with the right tires and traction control not any more. See the 296 or the 750S Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
https://www.behance.net/gallery/185476617/FERRARI-ALTO A concept design I just stumbled upon which appears to take design elements from KC23
If more simplified/elegant it could be gorgeous imho, the render is a little too extreme. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As an end-of-year gift, no road car engine in Ferrari's history will run as fast as 167.Il are only two that run faster, and that are in a different category: the T50/33 and the Valkyrie.
I look forward to the screaming V12 as do most on this website. My question is the torque-will it be more or less than the current engine and where will it reside on the rev range? I have loved chasing the revs on Ferraris but many drivers have been spoiled by the instant torque of Hybrids and EVs and the acceleration they elicit. I remember about 20 years ago when the SL65AMG came out everyone bemoaned its instantaneous torque which overwhelmed the traction and that doesn’t compare with the current crop of performance EVs. The current Ferrari hybrids may ruin it for those looking for a fire breathing V12 with the instant acceleration of its hybridized brethren Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I actually loved the contemporaneous supercharged V8 AMGs at the time. Had an S 55 and SL 55. Those were both great daily drivers- doing 100 mi/day back then.
I agree they were great daily drivers- I went through 2 SL65s and they were still going strong when I unloaded each 35K miles later. Can’t say the same for my SLS DD which fell apart at 30K miles- transmission and suspension and subframes all needed replacement (NY roads!) The SLS came closest to the F12/812 experience albeit with a different but just as exciting soundtrack MB AMG has now lost its way with the newest generation SL and GT Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
So above 9500 then, the ultimate question of course is if the redline number will start with a "1"?! or if that will be reserved for the 167 lightweight edition...
This is indeed the swan song, and it's good that it ends with its 3 versions. With the exception of our community on this thread, I have to agree that the clientele has changed a lot, and apparently the V12 won't miss it . The waiting list for the 296 is proof of this... Another time, another era... The badge is enough now because I would never have thought that there would be so much enthusiasm around electrified 6 cylinders at this price... In the end, the vast majority only want the badge...
The SLS is one of the cars I love the most. Owned two and would buy another if the right spec comes along… incredible car Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Well, Ferraris are not front engined, per se. They are front-mid engined, as opposed to rear-mid. They still have more weight on their back wheels, than on their fronts. Let's also keep in mind that the Compatizione already has 830 CV. People want the performance and the driving experience and the 296 delivers on both fronts.
The 296 feels heavy, as opposed to the lightweight V12s? That's something I haven't heard anyone saying before...
Thanks for the info - will be good to compare with my T33. They'll both probably come around the same time!
