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Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by lil squid, Jun 9, 2008.

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  1. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    I'm sure that blue is actually more of the mountains in the background. It is the wrong angle to be able to see any water below, if there is any. All you can tell is that there is a drop to the right of the barrier and only the caption tells us it is a lake. I agree that the caption must be incorrect as a look at Streetview of the road along the lake doesn't seem the right topography anyway. I cannot read the race numbers of the two cars in front, or find a complete entry list with either car on. But it should be possible to work out from the relative start times and average speeds of the three cars, roughly how far along the route they would be and, from that, where the photograph was taken.
     
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  2. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Hi Yan, correct wording is "An overtake by the lake." and the lake can't actually be seen in the photo; firstly the road is very much angled upwards
    and what is on the right is not water, just distant hills.
     
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  3. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Has this been confirmed? Has a price been announced?

    Thank you.
     
  4. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 28, 2005
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    I checked the website last week and didn't see it.
     
  5. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I just checked too. There’s apparently no search function on the web site.
     
  6. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    It is somewhere not too far from Lake Bolsena/Viterbo. I spent a few moments with Streetview and could clearly see the same mountains in the background although I didn't find the exact spot.
     
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  7. Yan-Alexandre

    Yan-Alexandre Karting

    Dec 15, 2016
    191
    Well, we may have not find the place yet, but my father in law was very happy with the picture. He told me how, in 1956, Moss car stopped just in front of him and how he helped pushing the car back on the road with other spectators.
    Tonight we are going to see Ferrari, the movie, at the local theatre, one hour drive from here, other side of the Radicofani pass. A very Mille Miglia Christmas !
     
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  8. -CD-

    -CD- F1 Rookie
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    Jun 7, 2005
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    Christian
    Hi all, hope you had a great Christmas and enjoy your Holidays!
    I‘m in preparation for our move and will part with some of my bigger
    books and „highrollers“ and so i would offer to the fchat collector community first.
    Will post pics the next days, just for a first info.
    like Miura Jota Edition, Ferrari in Camera Leather, Racing through Europe Leather,
    Nathan Beehl‘s Leather, and some other specials.
     
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  9. Ferri

    Ferri Formula Junior

    Dec 26, 2004
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    The Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hugo Garritsen
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  10. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary

    Mar 2, 2005
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  11. -CD-

    -CD- F1 Rookie
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    Here‘s the first, as new Miura Jota Edition, can make detail pics if needed, asking 5.500 USD incl. shipping

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  12. joejackson

    joejackson Karting

    Aug 18, 2006
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    Muenster/Germany
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    Gert S
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  13. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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  14. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
    688
    Buyer beware, another bilingual Nada ‘pretty pictures’ only publication?
     
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  15. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    Yeah true, but I would like a book detailing the 24 hour LeMans victory.
     
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  16. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
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    In due time there will be others!
     
  17. Zeltweg

    Zeltweg Karting

    Apr 8, 2021
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    #6467 Zeltweg, Dec 30, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2023
    The Ferrari Can Am books by Arnaud Meunier arrived to autobooks-aerobooks yesterday. The price is $75 + $12.95 flat rate shipping within USA. Here is the link to order.

    https://www.autobooks-aerobooks.com/product/ferrari-can-am/
     
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  18. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    Feb 27, 2004
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  19. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Bilingual books are a waste of paper.
     
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  20. -CD-

    -CD- F1 Rookie
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    Have some in the collection which are nothing less than great!

    288 GTO art&car Lewandowski as an example.
     
  21. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    By definition any bilingual book has cut the text short, castrated it, to make room for both languages, so it is inferior to what it could have been. Less info, research, facts, quotes.
     
  22. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
    688
    The worst are the trilingual publications by the now defunct publisher 'Automobilia'. You can basically only do photo books this way.
     
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  23. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    Not necessarily. The publisher could just as easily add more pages to allow for the additional language text. If a publisher chooses to make a book bilingual it may be that is the only way they believe they can make money. Better that than no book. In the present times of often poor translations, it can often be quite useful to have the original text so that you have a chance to understand what the author intended to say (although I certainly accept that a proper translation would render that reason superfluous)! Indeed, I do have a handful of books that I wish were bilingual for that very reason. And Giorgio Nada are one of those publishers who generally do not do proper translations.

    I own a number of books that are bilingual or occasionally trilingual. Some are excellent, some are pretty poor but that is true too of single language books I also own.
     
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  24. -CD-

    -CD- F1 Rookie
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    But if a book has a single model theme, has an average number of pages than bilingual
    not automatically means that the content was cut down and lack any infos…

    Yes there are big books, single model, more an all over compendium than a book and with one language that are
    THE books for me, like the Dino book, Miura, etc. but for me personally bilingual isn’t a dealbreaker
    and there are some very good books out there.
     
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  25. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Jarret, Christian:

    Fair points but if only you could see what those bilingual books could have been, done properly with one language!

    Jarret in most cases making a book bilingual means that as you hit a cost ceiling i.e a maximum page count you DO have to castrate the text.

    Anecdote: in 2010 I translated 49000 words of RM's first ever auction in Europe, almost the entire Monaco May auction catalog.

    Before beginning I informed them that French, by nature, is 30% longer in terms of word count than English.

    There was a sharp intake of breath at the London office and they scrambled to shorten all the English language texts before I began. It was that or ending up with a two kilo catalog.
     
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