A paint job on a $250,000 car should be at least as good as the paint on a Ford Escape.
You also shouldn’t need to plug an ICE car into a wall outlet to prevent the battery from dying yet here we are … i’m not an owner but clearly the pros outweigh these cons as very smart people line up to pay ungodly amounts of money for these cars Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Doesn't seem like that saves you from swirls and holograms either: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/149112437/
Yeah but at least the need for trickle charging can be explained by smaller, lighter batteries for performance benefit. There's no benefit to bad paint. Especially on an exotic car that many see as automotive art..
I've found the thickness or amount of paint on Ferrari is quite hefty compared to many other makes that I've put a paint meter on... The amount of paint isn't a problem, It's their quality control and correction process/technique that is lacking..... but I know you were probably just being funny.
When was the last time Ferrari really cared about weight saving or building light weight cars? The SF90 and 812 in the real world are 4000lbs ( i have seen them both on scales). A 296 won't be much less than 4000lbs, and their new truck will be around 5500lbs. They have become beyond a joke. Every car they build should have been a carbon tub and body since 10 years ago, but pure greed, profit and taking the buyers for a ride is all they seem to know these days.
As long as the punters that clog the streets at 5 under while checking their cell and sipping lates on their way to show off (impressing 12 year old boys) at C&C are willing to pony up for the honor to buy one of these, the paint will be sub standard and the dealers will treat you like crap.
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people accept it because the cars are good but people shouldn't be defending it, it is a bit of a joke really if you were paying for pts / tailor made / atelier then it becomes even more unacceptable but it's the same as them not using carbon tubs, we accept that the result is good and just continue buying
The Earl Scheib paint job that cost less than $200 was far better than the factory paint it replaced on our 10 year old 308gt4 thanks to the minimal and very amateur prep job my brothers and I (aged 11, 12 & 14 at the time) did in 1985.
Very smart people buy Porsches. Very passionate people buy Ferraris. Wealth does not equate to intelligence. Hard work and passion for what you do will make you more money than your merely smart friends. Want perfect paint almost every time, buy a Porsche. Want to feel like their was soul and not a robot behind the creation of your car, buy a Ferrari any way you can(within the law and reasonable ethics).
There was an obvious paint defect (extra metal flake) on the rear quarter panel of my ex-328 … I thought it had been resprayed there but the previous owners confirmed it was factory paint. The resprayed nose OTOH was perfect. Porsche has done better paint, even on my 964 (painted by men) and 993 (robots). My 328 was a great car, but my 964 has triple the miles and the original paint is still excellent. Germans… Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
A very reasoned and eloquent response … a masterclass in expressing an alternate viewpoint. Thank you. “Smart” was a poor choice of word … my point being that people are willing to accept “flaws” in their Ferraris (wrong wheels, missing options, bad paint, etc.) that would be simply unacceptable with any other product … so clearly all the other aspects simply outweigh some minor issues. Passion, indeed. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
A typical Detroit OEM paint facility is around 350-400 million dollars. Yep that much. Have no idea what the Ferrari paint facility cost but if 10% of that I would be surprised. Why there is a difference in paint quality.
this reminds me of a funny comment by one of the 'judges' at an event where i was showing the F40..... he walked up to the car and said 'Is this a magnum PI car with a body kit?, boy, you have orange peel all over this car!" i closed the door and walked away.
"Bashing" is inventing some issue for the sake of being negative about...just about anything. THIS is not bashing, it is stating FACTS that should not be acceptable on a $300K++ car (paint issues like we see all too often wouldn't be acceptable on an Accord). People forget how much trouble Ferrari had when Luca took over in the early 1990's. The cars were badly put together, slow, unreliable, etc... Now they're fast, still badly put together, and "more" reliable but still not in the same league as Porsche. Amazing what marketing "passion" as your raison d'etre does for you.
A typical Detroit paint facility is painting a hell of lot more than 10,000 cars a year so no doubt, it's a lot bigger and a lot more expensive. This comparison is nonsense.
I completely agree that it isn’t acceptable. Not in 1990’s and not now. My point was that it is indeed nothing “new” and was simply a very old complaint that gets rehashed for social cpm’s. Might as well do a video on water being wet. Frankly any of the modern car sprayed by robots is terrible IMO. The only cars I’ve seen consistently with impeccable paint is custom hot rods by Trepanier, etc. Porsche is just as bad as the rest and not deserving of being put on a pedestal.
The issue as I keep yapping is the corporate quality system. If Ferrari focused on quality they could certainly get there. My Gen 2 NSX doesn't require a tender and has an itty bitty 12V battery. It also has excellent paint, because the folks at the factory wanted that and developed a process to produce it.
Porsche paint quality is miles beyond Ferrari. To suggest otherwise means you've never looked at a Porsche or you're in the Ferrari marketing dept. No one is suggesting that Porsche paint is perfect...just that it's a LOT better than Ferrari.
The "buyers" are big boys and girls. They accept major flaws (like poorly done paint jobs, unreliable electrics, etc) for the sake of owning a Ferrari. Sadly, one would think such storied marque as Ferrari would, as a company, have more pride in how their cars are made. Enzo's been gone a long time...but current Ferrari management must love the guys that say: "Enzo didn't care about paint so why should we?"