Retromobile 2024 Auctions | FerrariChat

Retromobile 2024 Auctions

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, Dec 25, 2023.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    France
    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, Dec 25, 2023
    #1
    johnei, Schultz, colombo2cam and 2 others like this.
  2. etienne

    etienne F1 Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Messages:
    5,835
    Location:
    Ferrari World...
    "Two cars from an important Swiss collection"... According to barchetta.cc, the last two owners of #1011GT are Adrian Newey and Sebastian Vettel...Correct?
     
    etienne, Jan 11, 2024
    #2
  3. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    France
    I think it was sold by Vettel when he left Scuderia Ferrari, so probably to the Swiss collector ! It was displayed by FISKENS at the time at Retromobile if I remember well.
     
    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, Jan 11, 2024
    #3
    Timmmmmmmmmmy likes this.
  4. Prancing 12

    Prancing 12 F1 Rookie Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,757
    Location:
    The long way home
    Fiskens has the car listed in their Sold section. I recall the car making the rounds maybe 4-5 years ago - is that right?

    Edit - oh, Barchetta lists Vettel after Fiskens had it.
     
    Prancing 12, Jan 11, 2024
    #4
    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari and Timmmmmmmmmmy like this.
  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    Neither Newey nor Vettel owned 1011 GT ever.
    Vettel owned another LWB Cal Spider (with a higher S/N) and Newey an SWB Cal Spider.
    The information on that website is inaccurate.

    Marcel Massini
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2024
    Marcel Massini, Jan 11, 2024
    #5
    etienne, turbo-joe, 375+ and 1 other person like this.
  6. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    France
    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, Jan 11, 2024
    #6
    bertdeboer340 likes this.
  7. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    Also, 1011 GT is not owned by a Swiss collector. It is owned by a foreign citizen that owns a house in Switzerland.

    Marcel Massini
     
    Marcel Massini, Jan 11, 2024
    #7
    Timmmmmmmmmmy, Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, ivo73 and 2 others like this.
  8. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    Incorrect.

    Marcel Massini
     
    Marcel Massini, Jan 11, 2024
    #8
    etienne likes this.
  9. bertdeboer340

    bertdeboer340 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    2,439
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Bert de Boer
    bertdeboer340, Jan 12, 2024
    #9
    JAM1, colombo2cam, DennisForza and 2 others like this.
  10. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    Marcel Massini, Jan 12, 2024
    #10
    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari, ivo73 and readplays like this.
  11. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2005
    Messages:
    13,664
    375+, Jan 12, 2024
    #11
  12. Terra

    Terra F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2004
    Messages:
    3,919
    Terra, Jan 12, 2024
    #12
  13. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    Says that the "body is original".

    Marcel Massini
     
    Marcel Massini, Jan 13, 2024
    #13
  14. Terra

    Terra F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2004
    Messages:
    3,919
    I recall it being rebodied into aluminum when restored during Jürgen Jaudzim’s ownership in the 1990s. And then getting re-rebodied back to steel in recent times.
     
    Terra, Jan 13, 2024
    #14
    readplays likes this.
  15. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ Honorary

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    24,860
    You may want to talk to the auction house.........they have a very very different opinion and unfortunately strictly believe what the red book states......on top of that, the people who did the work you mentioned, today strictly deny having ever done that............
    Some people are now trying to re-write history.

    Marcel Massini
     
    Marcel Massini, Jan 13, 2024
    #15
    readplays likes this.

Share This Page