Yes, I am waiting my PTU from SSAutotech, and after I want to use car everyday in hardcore mode. If you worry about your PTU, it's better to do as soon as possible, because it will broke 100%, Just try downshifting at high revs as you approach traffic lights. And the PTU will tell you goodbye very soon.
FYI My 03/13 FF has 85k kms on the counter and no PTU issues yet. After communication with thread-starter Officeline and Martin from Parkes Performance, having read the 32 pages of this thread and having seen the video on YouTube from Hollywood Mechanic ( ), my personal view is 1) that the occurrence of the PTU failure has a direct relation with the frequency of engaging 1st to 5th gear cq the PTU (I do predominantly highway k's in 7th gear) AND 2) that the PTU failure will finally occur to every owner. That is why I am anticipating a visit to Parkes Performance. I hope that the PTU repair can be combined with a DCT sensor replacement as I have understood from my local dealer Kroymans that one of them is already faulty (so it is not only 2011 and 2012 FFs with faulty sensors). Based on the invoice shown to Officeline recently by another FF owner (this thread), I will however make sure that Ferrari has not come up yet with cheaper solution than before. Also some words about batteries: a new battery also solved a lot of issues (notifications) in my case. At the same time I do not understand the emphasis on trickle charging etc. With my FIAMM battery I could leave my FF for 4 weeks in the garage without any problem. I do now have a LiFePO4 battery with a smaller capacity, but I can still leave my FF in the garage for 4 weeks without any issues if I do leave the car open (I measured leak currents being much higher with the doors closed, probably due to the involvement of the alarm system and the IR-remote-door-opening-electronics).
Thanks for posting that. I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I had to laugh at his disclaimer, "don't try this at home" and "I'm not responsible if you mess up". I don't blame him one bit, but it was funny.
I’ve received a email reply from Hollywood Mechanic regarding his Florida shop contract he deals with, all info he gave was it’s in Palm Beach, Any shop info I’d appreciate.
The video got removed any idea where I could find it? I am planning to get an ff and this video would be super interesting to watch. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
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How is that Ferrari has gotten away with all these PTU failures with out a class action law suit. On my Porsche 991.1 the engine was warrantied for 10 years from first date of Purchase due to engine failures. To add insult to injury they did not even attempt to fix the known failure in the Lusso. Seems kind of crazy considering the cost and the fact that some people have had multiple PTU failures. If 2300 cars were built the 10% threshold would be 230 failures. Curious what percentage of failures would be needed for Ferrari to take accountability? It’s even more insulting that these cars were at least 350k new. There’s clearly a severe design flaw, with many owners being strongly pushed into the direction that an extended third party warranty is the solution. I am by no means an attorney, but this does not seem right. Maybe we should all band together and express or disappointment.
The DCT is more likely to fail than the PTU. I don’t see any class action lawsuits against Mercedes, Ferrari or Getrag for the DCT despite it affecting a far greater number of cars. Just be glad that we have a relatively affordable and permanent fix for the PTU problem.
That’s a valid point, however I think it comes down to most dct failures are fixed under warranty of some form. If more people were paying out of pocket it would be different. I am not an expert, but if the engine is damaged due to PTU failure we don’t really have a cheap affordable fix. Is it true that the PTU failure can damage the engine? If this is true I wonder how this happens and how you can avoid or take precautions to limit the damage just to PTU?
To add information that simply validates what everyone already knows, I took delivery of 2016 FF 215306 (Grigio Ferro with Nero interior and 14,851 miles on the odo) on Friday 12/08/2023. One attraction of it was that it was being sold as a CPO car by a Ferrari dealer with a two year FNA warranty. Another was that, 11 months and 285 miles earlier, the previous owner had paid $15,650 (per invoice) to an independent shop in Texas for an "OEM PTU rebuild." I was not able to get information on who did the "rebuild" or what exactly was done. ONE DAY after I took delivery of the FF three friends joined me in it to go to a local Ferrari club holiday party. On the way home--less than 150 miles since I took delivery and 435 miles since the PTU had been rebuilt--a squadron of warning lights including the dreaded "Low 4WD ATF Oil Pressure" invaded the instrument cluster. I am not a Ferrari newbie (nine since 2008, first one in 1975), had done my research on the FF, and knew about the PTU issue. The FF was flat bedded to my local Ferrari dealer. They reported that the PTU needs a total replacement. We are waiting on FNA to supply the replacement PTU. From FChat I am aware of the shops in the UK that have done some re-engineering of the PTU and production of new parts, but as this current job on my FF is being done under the FNA warranty I don't have an incentive or ability to pursue what looks to be that long term fix. Why Ferrari cannot, or will not, do to the PTU what these tiny (in comparison) UK shops have done is a vexing question.
I am not sure who or if this PTU failure spread sheet is still active. However there is a shoot in the UK that’s done 60 PTU repairs alone. I think data would indicate there are many more FFs in the US. The failure rate has to be considerably larger. Ferrari really should take accountability or at minimum offer a highly discounted viable fix with re-engineered parts.
the shop that did the rebuild and charged 16k should be on the hook. It’s not hard to determine who was the prior owner and reach out to them to figure out the shop.
SSAutotech/Parkes to whom you refer have PTUs shipped to them from all over the world so the 60 repairs are not just a UK only number.
Don’t hold your breath, Ferrari have no regard for modern used car owners. Speed sensor, Sticky parts, 456 window issues, sure the list Is incomplete .
It is stunning the difference between Ferrari and some other manufacturers. I have a Lexus LS460 which I bought new in 2007. A year or two after I bought it there was a recall for a valve train problem. Now I was on a Lexus forum and not one owner had complained of a failure, but Lexus was going to take care of the problem. The repair took two days so Lexus gave us all a loaner, a $500 credit to use at any Lexus dealer (I got 4 free oil and filter changes), AND they filled your gas tank (needless to say I brought it in with a quarter tank ). And keep in mind, in 2007 my LS 460 had a MSRP less than $80K. What has Ferrari done for you lately?
My Lexus LX no question the best car I’ve ever owned, Love my FF but Ferrari as a company leave a lot to be desired and that includes the dealership..
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Well just be glad you weren't hit with the double whammy like I am. PTU got fixed but now my DCT is on the fritz and will need a rebuild as well.
Wow that's unfortunate. What mileage are you at? What were the syptoms of the rear DCT box needing a rebuild? Did fluids mix or did you loose the sensor.
No warranty so I went aftermarket, shipped car off to hollywood mechanic and he fixed the PTU, now back again to him once the weather clears to rebuild the DCT Red transmission light keeps coming on randomly, sometimes will miss a gear, sometimes the light will come on and the transmission works fine, but yeah I think the sensor is on its way out. Also has bearing whine at lower speeds. No leaks at least, but still needs a rebuild. Car is a 2013 with just over 30k miles on it. Really sucks. I'll be out about 9k for the PTU and 18k for the DCT. Worst case scenario but I was prepared for it, still, just hope nothing else is wrong with the car for the next few years as I do really like the car, especially with the full kline exhaust I had installed.
