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355 To Challenge Grill or Not ??

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Does a 355 look better with or without a challenge grill?

  1. With Challenge Grill

    51 vote(s)
    58.0%
  2. Without Challenge Grill

    16 vote(s)
    18.2%
  3. Depends on the color of the car

    21 vote(s)
    23.9%
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  1. ShineKen

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    Does a 355 look better with or without a challenge grill?
     
  2. ChoonHound

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    Without, but how well does the 355 manage heat without it? Seems like it would get extra toasty in there with minimal ventilation.
     
  3. HH11

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    The entire engine cover has openings for the heat to escape through.
    I personally am a big fan of the challenge grill. Like it both on the 355 and 360. The black contrast is nice against the paint.
     
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  4. taz355

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    On my black car I don’t think it looks as good but on other Color’s looks way better
     
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  5. ShineKen

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    But are you saying your black 355 would look better with the black panel or just implying the challenge grill looks better on other colors?
     
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  6. taz355

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    Challenge I think looks better on a non black car because of the contrast
    It still looks ok on my black car but not as good
     
  7. taz355

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    Works good though but looks same from 50 yards
     
  8. M. Brandon Motorcars

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    Personally, I’m not a huge fan of the Challenge grille on either the 355 or 360. I don’t like the way it “breaks up” the rear of the car with a contrasting color (except, of course, on a black car).

    But I also realize that it can contribute to cooling of the engine, which is obviously important on a 355.
     
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  9. ttforcefed

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    Challenge grill is a must for any car that is driven in hot climates - challenge grill looks better than non challenge grill on every color other than red.
     
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    Essential.
     
  11. JoeCab

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    Yes - not as dramatic on black cars but sort of a subtle look. Either way the extra venting is worth it.
     
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  12. Mike Morrissey

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    I personally think the challenge Grill looks better than the solid. Although Dave Helms once told me it actually does more harm than good as far as managing heat.
    o_O
     
  13. Targatime

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  14. chrisj951

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    With!!! Especially on a car that’s not black. The challenge grill looks great. Plus it’s another vent for heat to escape.


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  15. chrisj951

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    I love how they look on red cars.


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  16. ShineKen

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  17. 308 GTB

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    My 1995 F355 Challenge was the first F355 Challenge developed for the 1995 North American Challenge Series and the only F355 Challenge raced in the 1995 Series.

    Here it is at the start of the 1995 Series...


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    Based on testing results, the Challenge grill was developed which helped reduce engine bay temperatures.

    Also seen here is a prototype Challenge silencer with three outlets, the lateral two blistering the paint on the rear bumper. This led to the development of the F355 Challenge silencer as we know it today.

    Today, my car still has its original Challenge grill made in 1995...


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  18. ShineKen

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    Not only does it dissipate heat better, it’s lighter ;).
     
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  19. ShineKen

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    Did your car have a third brake light before is that just a bad pic?
     
  20. 76Steel

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    I like the challenge grille. Even on black cars it adds something cool.
     
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  21. 308 GTB

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    It's a bad picture, Ken. It always had a third brake light. Remember, my car was ordered as a stock F355 S/N 100330 by Miller MotorCars with its Challenge kit which was installed by Miller who supported Peter Sachs in the Challenge Series.
     
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  22. 308 GTB

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    The Challenge grill allows extraction of hot air from the engine bay with the help of the Nolder lip.

    See this post by INTMD8: How much does the Challenge grill help?
     
  23. Timmo

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    I may be wrong but because the rear end of the car is a vacuum area is also why some turbulent flow takes place around the "sharp" edges at "high" speeds and causes dirt to get inside the rear of the engine bay with the Challenge grill installed.
    It makes sense to me that installing the Challenge grill should be done along with removing the heat shield between the muffler and the air boxes.
     
  24. zstyle

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    I love the challenge grill when its a contrast to the body paint.

    Yet I won't install one on the '95 to keep it more factory. If the car was a special early edition, I would've opted for a challenge grill especially in PHX.
     
  25. INTMD8

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    Have to disagree with that one.
     

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