812 Replacement Rumors

All they need to do is confirm the America's Cup part now.
https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/articles/innovation-performance-and-sustainability-unite-in-a-new-sporting-challenge-led-by-giovanni-soldini

 

I guess this is no longer the 812 replacement thread…


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Back to 812 replacement - my dealer in Auckland has repeated to me again that both the coupe and spider of the replacement will be revealed at the same time. Will know in 3 months if he’s right or wrong! I’m hoping he’s right as I’d like the spider if the specs of the car are right.

 

^^^ This would be highly unusual for Ferrari. I can’t recall the last time the coupe and spider versions or a regular production Ferrari were released at the time same. If it happens, there will be loads more spiders sold than coupes, so maybe the smart money would be better off in the rarer coupe?

 

Both 812 Competizione were presented at the same time.

 

Wasn’t the 296 coupe and spider revealed at the same time as well?

 

if my memory serves me well GTB June 2021 GTS April 2022

 

Has Ferrari in recent years produced a spider only version of any of their regular production cars? Perhaps the Cali?
The GTS is so good I could see them producing a spider version only of the F167.
Then they can pull a Porsche- produce a limited coupe version as its hardcore (not VS) variant and charge more for it than the spider.


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Yes. Which is why I said regular production car. 812 comp was limited.

 

No.

 

Is the Comp really(!) limited or just called so? The Scuderia wasn’t, as well as the Pista. Or remember the F40.

 

Would probably need to go back to the 430 for the last time that happened.

 

Semantics. Those are all categorised as ‘special series’ cars. I am talking about the base model variants.

 

The Comp is considered limited- it says so on the plaque and is limited to a number- 999 copies. The Scud and Pista were limited by time but not by number. You could call it semantics but it does matter.

I would also be surprised, and also delighted, if they revealed both the coupe and spider at the same time. If Im a car company, and I have some cool cars to reveal, isn't it better to spread it out? Time will tell.

 

Don't like spiders. Coupe only for me!

 

Not a playboy (any more) either…..


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Actually thinking about it, that'd be good for me then if they released both at the same time as everyone would clamour for the spider and I'd have an easier route to a coupe allocation!

 

Bec

Nobody should start to build an expectation that the spider will be released concurrently with the coupe. They make 2 sales to their installed base instead of one because people buy the coupe and then trade it on for the spider 2 years later

 

Not expecting it, but it would be nice!

 

I think you are confusing things.

bhp = Brake horsepower = Mechanical horsepower = Imperial horsepower

PS = CV = Metric horsepower (European horsepower, pretty much every language in Europe has its own abbreviation for this)

HP = Horsepower (can be either bhp or PS, depending on who you ask. In Europe (mainland) it means metric horsepower)

So,
544 kW converts to:
740 PS / CV
730 bhp

Please notice that Ferrari gives original hp figures in metric horsepower (CV) which is typically rounded to 10 CV accuracy. kW and bhp values are inherited from this original CV figure and are typically mathetically too accurate. So if Ferrari gives figure of 840 CV, it does not make much sense to debate whether correct imperial figure is 828 or 829 bhp.

 

My dealer is right or wrong - time will tell! I’m hoping he’s right.

 

My dealer (sales rep) said…
Creates pages of speculation.
All BS.
Dealers know less than what’s posted here by folks in the know.
Whenever I hear “my dealer said” I scroll two pages ahead until someone posts a pic of 167.

There is absolutely no way Ferrari is revealing the couple and spider at same time.
No way.
Let’s please move on.


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Cool drawing. The solution in 599 GTB was cool too when it arrived, but later on I ended disliking it. Your solution looks much better, but I still hope that the car described as "muscular", means something else. But indeed, the padding suggests scarily towads this "ears" solution.

 

All three sentences are wrong. While I just said in earlier post that it is meaningless to debate bhp figures, lets correct this one too.

F12 has:
740 metric HP (PS/CV, original Ferrari figure)
730 imperial HP (bhp, converted figure)

 

And if any other figure is quoted, it is caused by the conversion error.