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  1. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #6376 Marcel Massini, Feb 3, 2024
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    Top of windscreen reaches deep into roof.
    I like those intakes atop the rear fenders.
    The hood is extraordinary long.
    Entire design is quite fresh and has zero to do with 812 SF or F12.
    Somehow reminding of a plexiglass Daytona. Front turn signal lights with sort of chromed extension. Interesting detail.

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  2. day355

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    With a muscular car side !
     
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  3. DavidJames1

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    Marcel, do you have any idea if both coupe and spider will be launched at the same time? Given past history unlikely - but live in hope!
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    Coupé only.

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  5. DavidJames1

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    Thanks - the car sounds interesting!
     
  6. khal360

    khal360 Formula Junior

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    Any hope the interior matches the nod from the past exterior? Or is another Xbox or PlayStation?
     
  7. colonels

    colonels Formula Junior

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    i have been saying bring back chrome grills! i never understood why people think chrome is cheap looking? it is old school for sure but i always saw it as an expensive old school styling.
     
  8. ingegnere

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    @ohno predicted some such here:
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/149487091/

    I hope this is not the case as it would be a bit of a Lambo play and just some aero fakery—creating a “scoop” where air world normally flow anyway if the design was properly executed—and something Ferrari does regularly that, IMO, really cheapens the engineering value of their designs.

    Even if it’s like the ‘buttress sitting on the rear fender” look of the 288, this will take away from emphasizing the width of the rear—like it does on the 288–but at least on the 288 the scoop is functional instead of being just some guide vane at the rear of a front engined car.
     
  9. ingegnere

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    Compared to its predecessor, it was like a jump of 20 years in terms of the modernity of its design—very clean but just shouting ‘speed’. Maybe not muscular looking enough for some at the back—owing to its ‘flat’ fuselage side treatment without the rear haunches—but it made up for it by being wider across the whole car.

    The story of a prototype car being crashed during development—ostensibly due to its power and speed—sealed its place in history.
     
  10. ingegnere

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  11. leopoldo

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    Do you think any improvements of quality of sound from the 812 ?
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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  13. of2worlds

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    #6388 of2worlds, Feb 3, 2024
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    On a slightly different design detail has the Daytona 'blood trough' made a return?

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  14. ingegnere

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  16. inox

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    Still TWC+cGPF combo? Or have they advanced to stand-alone cGPF?
     
  17. Forza Scuderia

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    When are you going to share an updated sketch with us that is updated to reflect recent intel shared on here from dealer preview feedback and d355?

    We are in our seats waiting with hot buttered popcorn!
     
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  18. ingegnere

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    I’m thinking about it but frankly blindsided by the “scoop on the rear fender” input. I imagined a scoop of sorts in my last sketch—just aft of the side windows, look closely—but not sure this qualifies as “on rear fender”.

    Also grappling with fenders/Coke section being either 288 or 308 gr. 4–not exactly the same, IMO.

    I’ll try to do something before the popcorn gets too cold. ;)
     
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  19. Ngcanada

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    I hope so!!! I have been thinking about you lately and quietly cheering for you to give us something!! Put everything on hold immediately, wife, family, work and all commitments are down the totem pole of importance. Make the Fchat family happy!


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  20. Forza Scuderia

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    This is very interesting. Can you clarify what you meant by a line going from back to rear? For many people back and rear mean the same thing. Did you mean from front to back or?
     
  21. Forza Scuderia

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    #6396 Forza Scuderia, Feb 3, 2024
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    Based on comments from those who we know are in the know I would guide toward the following

    1. I think when they say is Daytona reminiscent I don’t think they mean slab sided. I think they mean elegant simplicity and cohesion of design language and not overwrought or fussy. But still …very muscular. Coke bottle profile contours on body below greenhouse. Coke bottle muscular rear fender haunch like on Purosangue and 296… with the addition of at least flared out wheel wells like 308 GR4 but more smoothly integrated. Some type of blown duct element atop rear fender facing at least rearward, hard to know if matching forward facing inlet perhaps MM can add some input here
     
  22. RamsHmb

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    Most important question……are you ordering one?
     
  23. Forza Scuderia

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  24. v3ritatis

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    It seems the consensus is that the F167 is smaller then the 812. Does this imply the interior will have less room for tall folks?
     
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  25. Forza Scuderia

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    I don’t think anyone is saying that it is materially smaller. We aren’t talking 296 vs 488 here. I think it will have less front and rear overhang and more taut overall packaging but I don’t think they will shrink the cabin. It will be impossible to say for sure until people are allowed to sit in the car. What is being shown privately is just a design maquette.
     
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