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  1. JAM1

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    Creating a thread specific to Michelotto rally cars. This is the complete list of serial numbers along with build date and first owner information:

    Group IV variants:

    01/1978 - 20951
    Michelotto (Italy)

    05/1980 - 19051
    Grosoli (Italy)

    09/1980 - 19913
    Liviero (Italy Pozzi (France)

    04/1981 - 26713
    Pozzi (France)

    02/1982 - 21071
    Pozzi (France)

    04/1982 - 20373*
    Pozzi (France)

    07/1982 - 31559
    Garage Francorchamps (Belgium)

    01/1983 - 08380 (GT4 Chassis)
    Wide World of Cars (USA)

    02/1983 - 31135
    Pozzi (France)

    08/1983 - 18905
    Cobra Racing (USA)

    02/1985 - 21883
    A. Wiener (USA)

    *Built as a press car for Pozzi, cosmetically only to Group 4 specification



    Group B variants:

    02/1983 - 18869
    ProMotorSport (Italy)

    05/1983 - 18971
    ProMotorSport (Italy)

    08/1983 - 22409
    ProMotorSport (Italy)

    04/1984 - 18847
    ProMotorSport (Italy)
     
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    To any owners, particularly of a group iv. Can you send me a PM? I’m having my car (18905) restored and occasionally seeing specific photos to understand what changes Michelotto made from one car to the next would be tremendously helpful.
     
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    -18971 (PA 639396): 1983 San Remo Rally, Björn Waldegård/Claes Billstam.

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    https://www.girardoarchive.com/item/en/1/466163/Rally+Sanremo+San+Remo+(ITA)+02-08+10+1983

    -18847 (PD 723098): 1984 Rally Autodromo di Monza, Björn Waldegård/Claes Billstam.
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    https://www.girardoarchive.com/item/en/1/669179/Rally+Autodromo+di+Monza+(ITA)+01-02+12+1984

    More info and photos: https://girardo.com/car/1976-ferrari-308-gtb-michelotto-group-b/

    Restoration photos : https://www.bgmsport.com/projects/ferrari-308-gtb-michelotto-group-b
     
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    -18971 (PA 639395 not 6!) 1983 Rally Autodromo di Monza, Henri Toivonen/Juha Piironen

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    -18971 (PA 6393959) 1983 Rally di San Marino, Henri Toivonen/Juha Piironen

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    Some footage from the event, turn down the volume, or ignore the horrible music that's been added to it!


    (The car doesn't like bumpy sections......)

    An Italian rallyforum with lots of photos/info: https://rallymania.forumfree.it/?t=48342575&st=75

    -22409 (MO 600480) Lots of info and photos in the link below:

    https://www.motori.it/curiosita/1548475/ferrari-308-gtb-gruppo-b-in-vendita-un-esemplare-doc.html
     
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    -22409 (MO 600480) 1983 Rallye di San Marino, Harri Toivonen/Cedric Wrede (DNF)
    (Harri is the younger brother of Henri)

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    -18847     (PD 723098) 1984 Rally Internazionale della Lana, Luigi "Lucky" Battistolli/Claudio Berro (2nd. O/A)

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    Sales advert/description for -18847: https://girardo.com/car/1976-ferrari-308-gtb-michelotto-group-b/

    Footage from the event:




    Car No. 5 is -22409 (MO 600480) Crewed by Federico Omezzano/Mario Amato (DNF!)
     

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    you did not ship the car to Michelotto in Monselice yet?
     
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    Where are the #10 and #2 car today?
     
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    -18971 driven by Henri Toivonen as #2 on '83 Rally Autodromo di Monza was seen at this year's Tour Auto, driven by Yann Robin.

    -22409 driven by younger brother Harri as #10 on the '83 Rallye di San Marino was seen at Tour Auto last year driven by Jeremy Mennechet.

    -18847 driven by "Lucky" as #2 on '84 Rally Internazionale della Lana has also been seen at Tour Auto and Modena Cento ore Classic rallies in 2017 and 18 respectively, driven by US Ferrari collector Steven Read.
     
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    Due to recent changes at Michelotto and considering the distance between myself and Italy I chose to go in a different direction with the restoration.
     
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    Thank you for the info. Excellent looking cars!
     
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    Nice photos
    August 1983 is was delivered new as a Group IV to Lake Forest Sportscars / Mancuso. Probably soon after delivery completely converted to IMSA spec, with lots of modifications.
     
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    For clarification 18905 was completed in July 1983 but wasn’t exported to the USA until December of that year. It was ordered from Michelotto via Chinetti by Cobra racing (owned by A. Glick and B. Scyphers) and delivered to California in January 1984. The car ran GTU spec throughout the ‘84 season and was then sold to Warren Mosler in 1985. Rick Mancuso and others drove the car in GTO and GT2 through the late 80s when Mancuso purchased a share of ownership in the car with Mosler. The car continued to actively race until it was put in storage after the 1998 season.

    Another photo of 18905 early on in its race career:

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    -22409 driven by younger brother Harri as #10 on the '83 Rallye di San Marino was seen at Tour Auto last year driven by Jeremy Mennechet.

    Not correct as this was a copy…..quite some cars shown in this thread are copies or aka fakes.

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    (Regarding the TA). There was no real grB in the TA (if I remember correct) and also in the 100 ore were many fakes. The owners often pretend theirs are real or almost real :)….
    Mine is one of the real ones and completely renovated and overhauled at Michelotto, now with Valentino livery. Great cars to drive on Italian roads, passes and gravel but not a car for a circuit.
    Ciao
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    Wait! Thats you with 18905 in the WNY area?!?! Didnt know the owner was on Fchat! Awesome car man, Love to have cool stuff like that around here!
     
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