812 Replacement Rumors

Much more valuable on the 812 than the GT3. 812 handles significantly better than F12 IMO. On the GT3 it is imperceptible and that car handles brilliantly. S/T saved the weight but needs slower steering to counteract it. Fine by me but it’s the weight that is the improvement. Our touring handles beautifully, one of the best cars you can currently buy I reckon, except it would be better a little less stiff.

 

Exactly.

 

Those renders look really nice, thanks for the effort and giving us something more to discuss- really nice job!

 

This is great. Anyway to do this while keeping the "drawing like" look on the window and roof. Anyone else's eyes having a tough time with the perspective?

Awesome work with the renders everyone!

 

Just want to say I truly appreciate the effort from everyone trying to give us a visual of what we can expect based on our knowledge and understanding. True reflection of our collective shared passion.

 

Jerry, I completely agree with you, the Ferrari design team has done an excellent job and the Purosangue is one of the latest proofs of that. After seeing the rear photo of the F 167's black mule and what the cover could hide, I felt more at ease. I think we are facing a situation identical to that which happened with Purosangue in which none of the renderings in terms of design came close to what the final product is.



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The slower steering is fitted because S/T does not rear wheel steering.

 

I think you might be correct. sent a screenshot of the latest 'renders" to someone who has seen the car and he said not close

Dont shoot the messenger - my guy might also be trying to keep me off the scent

 

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Looks like the wrong letter, should be a C rather than a B from the curves on the profile, especially how the front drops........Webers on the sides?............

If so, my wife is gonna be pissed.........

 

Not everyone.

 

The 499p came a while before the vision gt styling wise, sorry for the long reply

 

Post 6534.. now we can really see the side profile.. today is going to be a busy day with sketches me thinks..

 

The F 167 will be presented during the month of May and naturally, with each passing day, the curiosity to know what it will be like becomes greater. Previously, Ferrari has already demonstrated that it can deceive us because invariably what is hidden beneath the mule's camouflage is not what we think it is. But there is no need to lose hope until next May because what happened in the past with the Purosangue could happen again with the F 167. As you certainly remember, the Purosangue was presented to the world in September 2022, but in February of that year something unexpected happened that Ferrari must still be digesting today. Someone photographed a Purosangue on the assembly line and these images went around the world, which meant that seven months before the launch of the FUV we all knew what it looked like.
Although I can't make any design future predictions about the successor to the 812, there is one thing I'm certain of: it will be by far the sportiest and most beautiful GT on the market with the best naturally aspirated V12 engine available today.

 

I very much hope that will be the case. I also hope that they find a way to trim the dimensions of the vehicle. These GTs, and indeed all supercars, are getting far too big (width in particular) to effectively enjoy on European roads.

 

Your comment is absolutely welcome! But let me say some things about my recent work...
First: I draw what i like! Of course I take a closer look at the pics of the prototypes. But I'm trying more to capture general design themes (like the overall proportions and perhaps the linearly rising line).
What characterizes a vehicle design? On the one hand, the proportions (i.e. the relationship between the hood and the greenhouse as well as the arrangement of the engine). And we all know these parameters of the new F167.
Secondly, the details that then determine the true character of the vehicle. And Ferrari is currently doing everything possible to hide exactly THAT from us! So we still know very little (apart from a part of the front look and the exhaust system). That's why I also kept my sketch very general and didn't include many details at all.
The drawing is intended to serve as an inspiration for people like ingegnere who have a lot of experience with the topic of camouflage and who have already proven many times that they can do it! Maybe there will be a leaked photo beforehand, who knows. But we could still be surprised by the final design too (just like day355 would like). And Ferrari employs the best designers in the world. It will be a fantastic car. That's sure!

 

I'm more interested in production - love SF90 to XX tether to those who kept retained SF90 to receive XX.
V12 coming to an end may shorten production - confident in performance and design.

 

As long as it doesn’t look like the Daytona or an American muscle car.

Not gonna lie, I still dislike the looks of the Purosangue. The leaked photo was an eye sore and the actual FUV looked identical at release. I’m still not a fan of the 296 and much prefer the look of the F8. We’ll find out in May or soon enough if the same sentiment will hold true for the 812 vs F167..

 

Purosangue delivery due soon - love the design and tech add it's all Ferrari. How many other brands have a four door that doesn't share parts with other brands - none.
Do you all go up to people at a car event and tell them you don't like their car - so odd.
We all bust our butt to own what's in our garage - next gen 812 looks and sounds very promising.

 

I’m excited for the new design. I’m still keeping the 812gts as I think it’s one of the best cars they’ve produced in a while. I pray they clean up the dashboard/steering wheel and don’t give us a cheap looking and totally dysfunctional combo that’s in the 296.

 

And a Sat Nav that works and has speed camera positions, so I don't have to use a Tom Tom in my £450,000 car!

 

Very true and understood. Point well taken! Was just sharing an inner view point. But alas I love all things Ferrari and will probably bust my tail trying to add one regardless

 

Quite amazing and shocking that the top brass is hard core tech focused and ex Apple and they come up with the worst driver interface out there. It’s a very prevalent feeling among owners and press. Deal breaker for me.

 

I think they fixed and cleaned up the wheel nicely for F8 and 812. Unfortunately, they then took it right into the dumpster with Roma, SF90 and 296.

 

Supercars have always been wide. May I call your attention to the 1980s Testarossa? I believe the crux of the matter is the British B Road and not European roads in general (apart from city centres obviously).

For what it matters, Vigna is not ex Apple.