Correct and that was strange. All compounds. Even if they address it to a 50% improvement that would be a significant progression!
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferrari-focused-on-making-2024-f1-car-easier-to-drive/10575284/ Ferrari focused on making 2024 F1 car easier to drive Ferrari has placed a major emphasis on making its new 2024 Formula 1 car, the SF-24, more predictable and easier for Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz to drive. With Ferrari having moved away from its ground-effect ‘bathtub’-style sidepod solution from last year’s Spanish GP, the team promised a new car concept for this season. Cardile clarified: “With the SF-24 we wanted to create a completely new platform and in fact, every area of the car has been redesigned, even if our starting point was the development direction we adopted last year and which saw us take a leap forward in terms of competitiveness in the final part of the season. “We have taken on board what the drivers told us and turned those ideas into engineering reality, with the aim of giving them a car that’s easier to drive and therefore easier to get the most out of and push it to its limits. “We did not set ourselves any design constraints other than that of delivering a strong and honest racing car, which can reproduce on the race track what we have seen in the wind tunnel.”
Ferrari designers seem to disagree, they already said in winter that suspension is overvalued, floor is where most of the performance comes according to them.
The excessive tyre wear at Ferrari could have come from the suspension kinematic inducing too much lateral friction. Haas, using the suspension supplied by Ferrari, suffered the same problem last year.
You would THINK by now they should have a handle on the tire wear. I understand there was limits of what could be fixed last year, but not this year.
Las VegasGP 2023 re: Sainz's destroyed chassis Fred Vasseur has said they are still in talks and in the progression phase of the talks.
How has that disagreement worked out in the last...16 years? To say that suspension is overvalued and it's all about aero is just ******* insane to me. It's the opposite of that! The reason the Red Bull is so good is because they control the suspension very well, which means they control airflow through the floor better. The Ferrari last 2 years was very peaky: Though to set up and operating window very small. On top of that, they had severe tyre wear issues almost everywhere. Yet the genius that made that design just triples down on it? Don't make me laugh.
Car looks great, but we'll have to see how fast it is with time. I wonder if Ferrari fans can not doom and judge a car before it even hits the track for one season.
The design direction the past few years was lead by Binotto and Sanchez. This is the first year Cardile will have designed a car completely as technical director. He seemed to do a good job last year of turning a turd into something raceable, so I say we wait and see.
The problem is correlation issues with the wind tunnel test model and the actual car. The simulations aren't a true test either of the actual car. Somethings not jiving.
Why do you feel the suspension is so important? I respectfully disagree. I think the floor/tunnels are by far the most important part, but aerodynamics in general are still more important than the suspension. It's been this way for decades now. I think the media dramatically overhypes the push rod vs pull rod arrangement. The same rates and motion ratios can be achieved with either. The choice is more down to packaging, center of gravity, etc.
I would wait at least 3 GPs and see how it goes first. Presentations and even tests (with the sandbagging) don't show the potential. It's only when all the cars run together than one can make an opinion. Jack Brabham used to say: "When the flag drops, the BS stops!" (referring to the start flag)
@Bas can answer for himself, of course; but I think suspension design is the key to cure excessive tyre wear.
We all know this, I’m just hoping for a Scuderia improving everywhere compared with last year. A flawless team like Fred said today. This would be a huge step forward already.
Improving in relation to their past performances ? Or improving to overtake Mercedes at least ? Not forgetting that McLaren and Aston Martin may have improved too.
That would be true if the suspension is what causes it. It's not all down to suspension at all. It's just one of the variables. Static weight distribution and aero load distribution at different speeds can have a huge impact on tire wear and tire temps. Overall balance and setup. A car that is sensitive to fuel loads.There are dozens of design elements that can affect the tires. Pull rod vs push rod is absolutely not the defining factor for good or bad tire wear.
I think, and hope, those comments were taken out of context because it’s a fact suspension setups are critical to performance. A couple of things this comment about suspension being overvalued may be in the context of all this push/pull-rod debate and how this doesn’t really impact the functioning of the spring/damper system. Also, with the heavy weight of the cars and the high downforce they generate, the cars are super stiff with probably little suspension travel, especially at the front. Definitely the rear suspension is critical for maintaining ground clearance (apart from the floor edges that need to be stiff) to avoid a spike in downforce that could lead to porpoising and also to control the attitude of the car in braking and acceleration though this also involves anti-squat and anti-lift geometry, so nothing to do springing and damping.
