EAG, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Without any (allegedly) formal discussion, communication from lawyers, due process... I guess it comes down to interpretation, until formal notices/documents are filed, shared, so on..

 

As far as my liability goes, I am not concerned at all. Art fired me when I got mad about him using an employees email address to request money to pay off his personal car. Sure I am being a little emotional, If you knew what I knew or experienced what I did you would be emotional as well. That does not change the logic of my analysis or observations. He took the time to film, edit, and distribute videos in which he says "literally robbed me"

My point is that Art is accusing people of theft, when the situation is almost certainly an asset seizure.

 

Is there more to the story about this car payment thing? Like the DRIVERS LICENSE conspiracy? Was Art's 360 (if this is what I'm thinking of) in the process of becoming a company project car for a collaboration with another car guy? I absolutely don't know all the details, but my impression is that car wasn't just simply in his name, but somehow was being used as a company project of some sort, or about to become a company project car. I think he ended up just selling it because you guys haggled.

Of course if it wasn't, and it's exactly as you suggest, oooofff. Not good for Art. At all.

The Kid Rock Joe Rogan episode just got posted. I really can't be here all day again. Plus, we all have NGS livestream tonight!

 

A couple aphorisms that I live by come to mind. The first is for Art: Wishful thinking: I tried it. It doesn't work. The other one I always recite whenever one of my shade tree modificata money pits goes sideways: You bring it on yourself. Maybe too harsh for EAG's victims, but nonetheless true.

I'll throw in a third one that may come in handy down the road: Nothing wrong with a little morning sex . . . unless you're in jail.

 

I'm still not gonna watch.

 

My point is that there is a lot of people who are satisfied with the kit itself. Not all of us used EAG to install the kit.

 

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that”

And you must not be watching Prison Brides, attractive foreign women marrying inmates for green cards.

Viva la bringing back debtor’s prison

 

I thought 458 is a dct transmission.unless you replace the entire transmission I don’t think it is possible. If that’s the case your 458 will be worthless.

 

I think one of

I may be wrong on this, but I think they put the F430 transmission into the 458 Italia/Speciale to get a manual. In my opinion, and I know close to nothing so take it for what it's worth, I personally think the F430 is the last Ferrari it makes sense to have a manual in if you want to get the full potential of the engine out of it while three pedaling. The 458 is simply too fast in my opinion for the standard 3 pedal. I converted by F430, but would never convert/swap my 458. Like I wrote, I could be wrong, maybe 600hp + cars can wring out all that hp fine with a standard 3 pedal, but I don't think it would be enjoyable for me. I suppose it would be dependent on the gearing ratio. I'm just a noob though when it comes to these things.

 

Damn, anyway I can commit a small felony and wind up in the womens prison for a bit

 

But yet the guys with 1,500 hp Ford GTs do just fine…..guess Ford is still better than Ferrari….LOL

 

Sounds cool. Any video of a 1,500hp Ford GT using a standard manual transmission you can post? I love the Ford GT, just out of my range though. The only video I could find showed a non-standard sequential shifter. That's not really a manual in the sense I wrote about.

 

Nope, I don’t follow those events…..the point is that using a manual transmission is not limited to 500hp 430s, hell my FGT is probably a 625hp car, and there is a new 800hp supercharger that uses the regular transmission.

A shame that the market is so high now for enthusiasts, I paid $182k in 2020. Great cars

 

Your point is that a manual transmission is not limited to 500hp. That wasn't my point. My point is that I'm not sure I could wring out the horsepower in anything beyond 600hp in everyday driving using a traditional manual. I do mountain driving, rather than drag racing so that's my point of reference. Mountain driving requires a lot of shifting, anything more than 600hp would require a lot more shifting than I'd have time to accomplish efficiently. I'm sorry I confused you.

 

Found it (stick 458):

 

You don't drive HP, you drive TQ. And that is related to gearing and RPMs as to when you shift. My ZR1 has way over 600hp and it is easy peasy to drive on back roads until you mash it too hard at the most un-opportune time as with any car (almost). Plus I actually shift it less because of the TQ it makes which is one of the knocks against it because you can go from 0-100mph in 2nd gear. Now contrast that with the 718 Spyder which has way less power but you do not have to shift it much either which is the knock against it too. Meaning both do not require much shifting in your kind of driving situation.

 

Is this different than gearing ratio, that is what I described/meant by gearing ratio in an earlier comment? I was thinking the same as you, if the gearing ratio allows me to go 100mph in 2nd gear, that would work in my driving scenario, but I was attributing it to gearing ratio mainly but I guess the two go hand in hand?

 

Can confirm GT4 gearing is very looooooong. NA cars(?) don't make like any torque when the revs are high though and you want the revs high for that thing to be enjoyable sound-wise. Its a fun car that anyone could drive and have fun with given its specs and figures.


BTW, not sure why I chimed in... Just wanted to be part of the group today boys

 

The bigger point, in my opinion, is not if there are customers with an ax to grind. Or even happy customers. Or former business partners or employees who have an ax to grind. This board could fill up with 1,000 former customers with horror stories. COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

Art got into business with a guy John and his wealthy Chinese investor friend Jon. In the dark of the night allegedly without any due process, board meeting, memo, legal proceeding, professional communications of any kind, took the company away from the 75% shareholder. Over night. It appears as if the book keeper ... who was in control of the company bank accounts, was a key player. She didn't pay the rent. Convenient. She reduced the company insurance from millions to $25K a month ago. Convenient. She was introduced to Art by Robert Farago. Who wrote an article (but it certainly wasn't journalism). He got super basic facts wrong that are easy to confirm (the CNC machines and 3D printers are still there, far as I've heard). This isn't journalism, that was a misleading hit piece full of holes. Art has a Montana LLC. WHO DOESN'T in the high end car world?!

As for Art's yachts and jets and so on... and is alleged motive to allegedly steal from the company, as some has suggested,... Art and his wife own and manage a charter boat, it's not uncommon. At all. It's a small, side income stream. Like an Air BnB. Goodness, what a crime. The airplane is a $30,000 piece of **** (sorry Art) prop plane because among other things, Art is a pilot nerd. Maybe Art could afford all those cars and that apartment because he has diversified assets. Ever think of that? Maybe he does live beyond his means. Is that any of your business or mine, or illegal? No. It's smoke. Theory. Chatter.

People with a beaf with Art coming out of the woods are not addressing what seems to have happened here. And it should scare the living daylights out of any entrepreneur or small business owner in America. This could happen to you. To any of us.

Was Art guilt of not keeping his eye on the people and operations? It seems so! A crime? Of course not.
Was Art guilty of teaming up, too easily with Dan, Chris, etc., without detailed contracts (Dan admitted his contract with EAG has holes, no written scope of work included)? It seems so. A crime? Of course not.

Is there WAY more to the story than what some are posting here, in other paces, and privatly? My goodness, absolutely.

Dan's contract with EAG was incomplete. Shame he wasn't more forthcoming, and his video title is wrong. Dan also didn't mention the multiple meetings with EAG (Chris, John, etc) where they attempted to come to a compromise. What Art hasn't posted is the emails from Jon and John saying "f*ck that guy we don't need his crappy youtube channel let's move on."

Farago's article is misleading AF. He's not a journalist. His female friend, who HE introduced to Art, is the alleged "chauffeur" who in fact could have been key to being able to pull off this horrible action. Art stupidly and foolishly leased a low end Range Rover for her to use. She lives two blocks from Art so yes, it's my understand she used to pick him up and they'd go to the shop together. By the way, how ****ty is it that they had to literally ask her to return the car two days ago? That they paid for. Without billing EAG. She dropped it off at the closest dealer to a very confused receptions. This is the character and integrity of the people we're talking about. I had dinner with her, John, Art, Kent (Mr. Tortious Interference) so these aren't just names to me, I met many of them. Never met Jon. But I read about him in the NY Post.

Hate Art the man. Fine. Vote with your wallet.

But hate what happened more. That's the most terrifying thing, in my opinion.

Kudos to Dan and his team for allowing me to participate in last night's live stream.

Open communications is far more valuable than the opposite.

 

Why would you post what you just posted?

 

Is art married?

 

This must all just be a conspiracy orchestrated by a secret society of reptilian overlords that live beneath our flat earth

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I guess I am just very confused about their being a mouthpiece here, and it would seem (likely headed there as we speak?) with litigation on the horizon, this would be to the detriment of EAG, and not a boon. But wtf do I know, I went to State College (barely)

 

Great question. Thank you for asking.

I spent about 25 years in the corporate world. But for the last five years or so I've been involved with start ups and small businesses; a far more anxiety filled, difficult and lonely road to pursue the American dream. And, as I've posted earlier, over the years I've become close with the numerous exotic car shops of which I am a customer. The owners tell me stories of the challenges. Ferraris and Lambos are sexy. The business is brutal. Heart attacks. Divorces. Not easy.

So, when I have a front row seat to such a heinous thing, and I watch all these jackals sling their theories and complaints, and this one guy is fighting for his life, I jump in. I hope and pray somebody would do the same for me if god forbid I got into business with people of deeply flawed integrity capable of such duplicitous behavior. I also recognize that by being a fly in the ointment here, I might be accelerating whatever crime Art may have allegedly committed by encouraging anyone with evidence showing he did something wrong to the company to come forward. Did he steal from the company? Did be mismanaged the money? From what I know, not even close. He got into business with the wrong people. And his life's work is now, potentially, tragically, in somebody else's hands. He never stood a chance. Would you buy a kit from them? It's a free country. Would you have Jeffrey Epstein manage your money? Hey. It's your money. Vote with your wallet.

 

In summary:

Those who think art isn’t a POS, liar, manipulator, etc: mrp_e

Those who think art is a POS, liar, manipulator, etc: Most everyone else in this and other threads.


Also worth mentioning that when he had my car, I was afraid to speak out for fear he wouldn’t finish it or would sabotage it. There have been a some recently who after getting their cars back speak out. I think that will continue to grow in number.