FERRARI TOOLKIT EXTRAVAGANZA

Seriously, another one? All of these listings are inaccurate, descriptions are incorrect and all have incorrect/incomplete/reproduction contents. These are market prices for crap not correct originals. Carry on.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/ferrari-275-gtb-4-tool-and-jack-kit-3/

 

He has been on ebay for years.. Long before I entered this world,
I was warned by the master tool man...

 

The auction description is technically "accurate" by virtue of omission. I think the jack might be correct, that may be it. The modern Beta wrenches seem to have been aged/dirtied. It will be interesting to see the banter on BaT.

 

Virtually no comments. Not even from The Tool Man.

 

sold for 4.700
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/ferrari-275-gtb-4-tool-and-jack-kit-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2024-02-07

 

Actually, I will amend my prior comment -- the Beta No. 55 wrenches in the auction are probably correct for a 275 GTB - I confused them at a glance with the modern wrenches that are labeled "Beta 55". They wrenches in the earlier 50's/60's cars were "Beta Auto No. 55", but Beta No. 55 is correct for 275.

 

That's what I mean by accurate "by omission". If you make no claims about authenticity of each item, you (technically) aren't misrepresenting them. Some of the tools are correct, most aren't -- the description doesn't seem to comment either way about the correctness of any of the individual tools.

 

Yes but the rest? Typically poor due diligence by BaT. Now that many car listings are RNM they seem to be taking anything?

 

fwiw, i saw worse at Cavallino(pix) than this with a 275gtb.

 

"Accurate by omission" (of hugely important facts) is a pretty well-worn tactic, even in the high profile auction houses. I remember probably 10 years ago there was an F40 that was being auctioned that I think had been totaled twice (according to a trustworthy source), and that wasn't mentioned in the auction listing. The listing talked about the speedometer having 2500 miles, which didn't match the actual mileage, and referenced work being done, but had no direct reference to the prior carnage.

I don't know if that still happens today, but I remember a few of those that were beyond the pale.

One thing I like about BaT is that at least there is active dialog between seller, buyer, and peanut gallery (often a mixture of experts and non-experts) to help flesh out the listing details. That dialog can help a lot -- not all comments are correct, but they usually get sorted out with additional comments from others. I actually like BaT better now that it has gone higher volume -- it's a viable marketplace now (if you are careful), compared to than back when they had hand-picked ultra rare or low mile cars that sold for untenable premiums (for most of us, that is).

I agree with your frustrations about the lack of specifics in the listing, but that listing would probably pass muster most places (accurate by omission). I wish there was less tolerance for omission of important information, but that doesn't seem to be the case in most of the auction world.

 

Any input on this kit? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/tool-and-jack-kits-for-ferrari-365-gt-22/

Authentic? Complete?

Price seemed low.

 

I think the box for the bulbs is missing?

 

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From the owners manual.

 

Thank you very much!

 

if anyone is looking, i have a complete and accurate kit.

 

Three fools here: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/365-jack-kit-and-briefcase-tool-kit/

 

^ wow!
nice gig if you can get it.

 

How do you figure ? What exactly makes anyone, let alone all three of them “fools” ?

 

For one thing this version of the briefcase toolkit is not correct for Daytona.

 

and it was incomplete.

 

I guess not being an expert and having history makes things magical

 

nevertheless: paying 26.000 US$ for some used old tools - who is so stupid???

 

That doesn’t explain reference to “Three fools”.
Please define.

 

Same could be said of anyone paying tens of millions of US$ for some old car, like a 250 GTO, right ?
Or some old painting ?

 

right ! ! !
but an old GTO is in an other liga. there are the superrich and money does not matter
and paintings - I only can say: ? ? ?
sorry, but we all have to be realistic and not dreaming