360 going to be like a 996

My first dealership visit with my 991 C2S was $18k.
Cheap they are not.

 

Curious what that service entailed. I’ve seen ridiculous service costs from Porsche dealers also, for trivial maintenance items. Seems to be a fairly recent phenomena. Will never buy another new Porsche until they fix it (which doesn’t seem likely).

 

New rear spoiler mechanism, new PCM unit, new rear window lifters. All very common 991.1 issues.
And a major service with plugs and drive belt.

 

$18K just for that? You would at least get a valve job with a Ferrari 355.

 

The rear spoiler mechanism alone was $7k.

For these kinds of moneys, a "valve" job is not the kind of job I expect...

 

I have a 996 GT3 that I’m thinking of turning into a track focused car or selling the GT3 and acquiring a second Modena and turning one of the 360’s into the track focused cars.

 

Coming from Ferrari enthusiast lol!

just like Ferrari there are diy and Ind shops avail.

 

Parts alone were over 10k and indys can't code the PCM, and I don't have a shop to DIY it. There was no winning that time.

Point I tried to make is Porsches aren't some engineering masterpieces that never fail. They do, and they are expensive to fix when the time comes.

What's night and day between P and F is parts availability and support. Ferrari seems to actively hate it's customers.

 

I have both and the p car is better built… at least 996 vs 360.

but I love them both for diff reasons.

 

I’ll report back in 12 MO’s on reliability of the 991.1 tt. Picked it up cpo for 95k… w 65k miles. Comes w 2 yr warranty.

I’ve got my eye this after my wife wants something different.. I may take over the 991 and go nuts w mods…. Intercoolers exhaust cats Div valves and tune… 700+ hp pretty easily.

 

Yes, Ferrari build quality is sub-par compared to almost any manufacturer. I have a more modern one, a Cali T, and I've already replaced some items that would never break on any other car (window switches, coolant tank, stickies and so on).

I feel Ferrari isn't even trying. Compared to a Ferrari, Porsche is awesome. But it doesn't mean Porsche is "good".

It is a much more special car to drive than a 911, just that some things in a F make you just shake your head. Like said sticky switches. They have been an issue since the 90's, every single one will turn sticky eventually, often in a matter of a few years. Yet they have done nothing to even try to mitigate it.

 

Just off the top of my head after owning both—/


360—19-29k miles over past 5 yrs
Stick buttons
Failed blinker relay at 19 k miles
2 water pumps by 29k
Failed susp ecu 25k miles
Failed clutch line t block 19k miles
Failed alarm siren 2x
Headliner fell off 22k miles
Drivers door cable broke 24k miles
Psgr cable getting tight.
Cat ecu fail 28k miles
Motor mounts 26k miles
Belt svc every 3-5k
Visor trim failure came in glued
Fronk leather latches fell apart 19k miles
Ac controls fell off brittle plastic 28k miles
Ac cond leak 27k miles
Dash leather shrinkage 19k mileage
Dash vents popped up


996 tt- 15-20k miles over past year
Drivers seat side trim fell off
Sunroof repair

time will tell I guess

 

My conspiracy theory is that they do sticky buttons on purpose to make the car seem worn out and nudge customers into upgrading. There is no other reason in my mind for it to have been a problem over so many years.

 

I saw a 996 today at cars n coffee and although I would agree that the porka’s build quality especially the interior is good the 360 is in an entirely different league aesthetically and mechanically, the beautiful curvilinear bodywork of the spider’s aging extremely well and the engine is just fabulous not to mention bulletproof, in my humble opinion [emoji4]


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You need to drive and own both for a period to apprec the differences. Imho

 

I intend too (I didn’t say there was anything wrong with a 996


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New to this. I own both. The stability of the AWD 996tt is incredible. You never realize your doing 120 and never lose control. Also never get noticed. AHH but the 360. You feel you are driving a legendary car. Everyone notices it even more people than notice my 993 cab. It speaks a totaly different language and you feel you are going faster than you are. I take the 993 for leisurely drive, the 996 to speed in sports car luxury and the 360 when I want exiliration. Just a lot of fun

 

360 > 430

Da sound. Da sound.


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Sounds lovely, I’ve had my car for 7 years and am genuinely interested in a 996, the earlier the better.


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I am a massive car enthusiast and a lover of all the manufacturers, especially Porsche and Ferrari ... However, you cannot compare a 360 to a 966 in the looks department, sound or driving experience. One is stunningly beautiful, and the other ... welllllll not so much. Now looks are individually subjective but even if someone offered me an incredible deal on a 966 I'd pass. There's no way I'm waking into my garage and looking at that front end and those headlights. When I walk into my garage I'm filled with excitement and pride every time I see this ...

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FYI: Sticky buttons are also an issue on some 911s. Can't remember what years.

 

Maybe I’m shallow hal but I just love the looks of my 996 turbo and the 360.

i’m blessed to own and love the two unloved variants per some car mag boards!

shallow Hal here…


I have other opinions about the 430 and cs as a bit overdone body kits and makeovers of the orig modena… but that might get my fchat card pulled for life.

 

What year 360? What year is your 996 tt? To make a fair comparison both cars should be from about the same production year-- and close in overall mileage.
Don't get me wrong. My 993 had just under 50K miles on it and at 22 years old (it was a 1995) I had only minor issues. Great car. Since the 993 I've seen IMS failures, GT3 nationwide recall do to engine replacements, and so many other engineering shortcomings that I Traded my 993 for my 360 six and a half years ago.
I haven't looked back.

 

2001 360 bought at 19k miles. 5 yrs ownership now at 29k miles

2002 996 tt bought at 16k miles 1 yr ownership now at 19k miles