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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by TTR, Jan 29, 2024.

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  1. Edward 96GTS

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    #128 TTR, Feb 27, 2024
    As far as I know and generally speaking, Europeans have always exhibited much more appreciation & interest for unrestored, “survivor” type vintage vehicles of all kind & willingness to preserve them “as is”, even if used regularly.
    The so-called “barn find” concept became popular in America about 15-20 years ago and has been overexposed in variety media ever since.

    In my 4 decades of full time preoccupation with the hobby and profession related to vintage cars, I’ve learned that concepts like “completely/fully rebuilt/restored” or “needs nothing”, etc, while commonly (over ?) used in marketing/sales pitches for them are and have always very subjective.

    To me, a fully sorted, “needs nothing” vintage car is not necessarily “every-nut-bolt-clip-rivet, fully restored” (although, it can be), but rather something one can just use it as it was originally intended.
    For example, if a vehicle is some post-war Grand Touring type, one should be able to, any given moment, throw some luggage in the trunk, drive it to, let’s say from Los Angeles to Denver or beyond and back without any significant preparations or worries.
    That’s what I consider “fully sorted, needs nothing” vintage car.
     
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    To me „needs nothing“ also didn‘t mean that everything is fixed on a perfect way or that every bolt is touched!

    But the pics on bring a trailer show worn out bushings, oil leakeges, etc.
    and that are details that didn’t fit my view of „need nothing“.
     
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    #130 TTR, Feb 27, 2024
    I agree.
    Very, very rarely one sees a fully sorted vintage car that “needs nothing”.
    Most DIY owners or restorers focus on things that are easy to achieve or do and/or visually pleasing on a car intended for static display, but more often than not ignore everything else, including functionality/operability/reliability of electrical, mechanical, etc things.
     
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    #133 Zanny1, Feb 28, 2024
    OK OK OK.... they all need "something". My point here was a new owner could get it the car and drive it without spending a bunch of money on it.
    I will refrain from posting reviews of any cars I have personally seen in the future. Always subjective, perhaps a better choice of words would have described this car.
     
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    #135 TTR, Feb 28, 2024
    No need to refrain from posting reviews, but if I may suggest ...

    ;)
     
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    #136 TTR, Feb 28, 2024
    If mine, I would just fix all the hideous aspects, including the targa butchery, but perhaps for +/-$200K one might find a reasonably equivalent condition example without the reconstructive surgery needs ?
     
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    #137 365GTC/4, Feb 29, 2024
    I saw that car or one VERY like it about 6 years ago in Monterey. That one had no stamping on the steering boss ie no serial number. This one looks like it has stampings on it but the photo is taken from a poor angle. Why not take a clear picture of that? Anyway it would be very odd to have 2 cars the same.
     
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    #138 turbo-joe, Feb 29, 2024
    I not made the picture. but very good question. you may ask BAT or the seller
     
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    #139 365GTC/4, Feb 29, 2024
    Oh and I just noticed another difference. The "Monterey" car had a faux wood grain ski slope, whereas this car as a matt orange one. I'll see if I can dig up photos of the "Monterey" car.
     
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    #141 Zanny1, Mar 3, 2024
    Books and manuals on BAT..... most of us already have them.
    Bowzer... how about you? If you need them I could bid and bring to Malta when we come over there in December.
    Mike
     
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    #142 Bowzer, Mar 4, 2024
    Thank you Mike, I have all and more , also the history file from 1973 onwards ;-)
     
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    #143 straightpipe, Mar 4, 2024

    good times with no speed limits
     
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    #144 turbo-joe, Mar 5, 2024
    may I see and hear it right?
    only photos and no video, but good sound
     
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    #146 Zanny1, Mar 5, 2024
    Good choice, Sam. Verde Medio Nijinsky is a little tough on the eyes. Blu Sera is magnificent on these cars.
     
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    #147 Marcel Massini, Mar 5, 2024
    In between it was dark red/amaranto.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #149 365GTC/4, Mar 6, 2024
    I think those "period" colours are great. Even better with plaid upholstery. Austin Powers - Yeah Baby.
     
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    #150 TTR, Mar 6, 2024
    I finally had a chance to take a look at the underside of the aforementioned single owner, well maintained & preserved example I currently have in the shop, all I can say that while there are few small(?), non-original (service) modifications and upgrades done over the past 5+ decades, majority of her original details & features appear to be in very good condition and definately worth of (photo-)documenting for authenticity ...
     
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