Did you see the forum post where Gooding auction charges $45,000 buyers fee for 246 then the Gooding peoples lost the Dino books, pouch, service records amd original sales recipt, etc Nightmare story Steering wheel appears to have only lower section replace/repaired?
Yes WTH and why; did an owner have an enormous belly or did he steer using the "milking the cow" technique?
Wrong spare wheel, no rain gutter black paint, wrong rain gutter bunpers, wrong dash antenna switch, no rear license light switch, wrong fuel capo, TubiStyle exhaust, no locked bar levers, Alternator fuse box top cover is missing, cam cover r1/r2 switch missing, emissions equipment half missing, Not roof black sqaure, wing window latches missing, missing engine vaccuum check valve Photo 65 shows the shortcut upholstery seam non originali, Photo 77 clever to blurr the differnt and not correct window switch Photo 105 door courtesy light button switch broken, kick panel light not on, wrong fasteners
My bad, why not on all Dino? It would have made sense, and truly the rectangular shape made me wonder. Oh well... Regards, Alberto
The lights are the same type as the single overhead version in the GT models Alberto. You'll see them listed as item 12 on Tavola 113 in the spare parts catalogue with separate lines of entry showing 1 as the quantity for the GT and 2 for the GTS. The revised location is simply due to there not being enough room on the targa roof panel for the lamp to fit into. The design team evidently looked for a suitable alternative location and determined there is enough room behind the footwell trim panels for the housings to fit into. As the GTS carried a higher price they must have generously decided to fit a pair to make the interior look more balanced, a rarity for Ferrari
I was waiting to hear what others thoughts were, but since no one has responded, here we go.... 08272 is a car I have personally inspected and know. I am not surprised by this price and honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if it went higher. It is an original low mile car that has never been touched. This isn’t for the average Dino buyer today, but rather a big collector. Original paint, original interior, ORIGINAL... I would also say if you didn’t know what you were looking at, you would never appreciate how special it is. In person, the paint looks horrible and is very crazed, the interior looks dirty and saggy, BUT it is an awesome preservation Dino. Matthias - $918k US is the correct price 01846 is a Dino I have known for a very long time and was restored slowly over the years. I would expected this to sell in the low 300’s in today’s market. Little piddly stuff that car be corrected, but a nice fun driver. 04382 looks awesome in the pictures. Either this was a steal for the pictures show or it is something else. I can’t say what. I do know somebody that was there and was planning on buying it. It was no reserve. The comment I was told was “something didn’t feel/seem right”. The person that told me this knows Dino, has owned several Dino’s and currently owns a Dino. They were there and what ever was being felt by bidders wasn’t just felt by one person. I would be interested in hearing from others that have first hand knowledge, this could have been a steal or a dodged bullet, not sure. 206 00298 Went for $610 with premium. This seems like an awesome price for a 206 looking at pictures. Anyone else have info? The US market is stronger than the European/ROW market. Several Dino’s are on their way stateside as we speak. There is a much better selection currently available at European dealerships than here in the US. It's actually cheaper to buy abroad/ship/pay duties than purchasing stateside. There are far fewer Dino’s in the pipeline in the US than what we have seen before. What is left of project cars seem to have the same quiet ask as a completed car, which makes no sense.
I agree with Shawn, yet no one is the bottom line, and/or a 'value expert' or a forecaster on Dino prices. Not even, the almighty experts (and they really know, right?), that put minimums, reserves, etc. at RM, Gooding, et al. The more realistic viewpoints are private sales, but most under wraps, albeit influenced by the 'other market'. Someone here, is privy to most of these sales, I forget who. When there are variations of $500K +/- , depending on mileage, condition, etc., and most sold at auction or BaT, both venues appear to be the 'guidelines', It can still be considered a touch artificial if you agree or not. At these selling playgrounds, virtual or live, there is always the possibility, of lack of knowledge, alcohol, women, and not to be unfair, any LBGTQ+, significant other. All, explosive conditions, that may lead to overpriced situations. Luck (bad or good) is another huge factor , if you are on BaT and everybody is on the Superbowl, you might unexpectedly win, 'cause no one was watching, Bat clearly. Once, I bought a delightfully great car, at least 94 points, one of 700 made, nobody bid, and the poor seller, with a huge investment, that he did not recoup. I felt very bad, he was downright tearful. My HUGE luck, his awful loss. No reserve, on BaT advise. Thus my price is not a good baseline, as I saved 35% on a car that on the proper day, would have done great. I was the only bidder out of about 7 or 8 more, that pressed a figure, 2 minutes went by, BINGO! Seriously, I was impressed. To be perfectly honest, I am carefree about all the monetary speculations, crystal ball and turban guesses, yet very glad that Dino has reached such levels for all Dino owners, that selling one might help in retirement or economical help, and happy for the happy buyers that maintain prices. Final question: why are Daytona worth less than Dino, and yes, Dino is prettier, but there is nothing better than a Daytona. The market has decided and spoken. Regards, Alberto
Thanks for responding, but with all due respect, the above doesn't really address main points of my curiosity, especially those regarding which of the achieved(?) prices most accurately represents the (current) "market" (Whatever that's supposed to be or mean ?) and why or which of the given examples, comparatively, could be considered the best "value" for the achieved/paid price and why, both from buyer's & seller's perspectives, etc.
While I don't pretend to be a "market" expert and don't have an answer to your question, last time I was looking for a Daytona to buy (on behalf of someone else), I quickly found nearly 30 listed for sale + several others "available" (but not publicly). None were great, fully sorted, no excuses examples (which I was trying to find), including some with +/- $1M asking prices.
The closest to our objective had an asking price slightly below mid-average of all 30+ available examples, but it too had some fairly serious challenges.
I looked for a variety of 1972, 911S, Targa. It took almost 4 years to find the proper one. 12 years ago. It was a 'serious challenge', while the 'market' was also doing its thing... Too many variables, and not too many sellers. Nothing as going to your, 'fill in the blank' dealer and buy a new car. The hardest part might be the color Absolutely not too much thinking. I stopped by the Tesla dealer nearby, and he had 200 +/- exactly the same car. Mostly darkish. Oh, just give me one of those... Regards, Alberto
the hardest part is when chasing a particular color. buying the best example regardless of color is easier. many have been repainted anyways.
A PPI is essential, unless you are Timo, but cannot be travelling all over either. Colours, believe me, are another complex issue, regardless if original / not.
Although the subject wasn’t destined/intended to show circuit, most common challenges included authenticity, correctness and thoroughness of various aspects of restoration efforts. And while it may seem somewhat biased, one of my restorations was established/used as a benchmark by the potential recipient and it alone made the search so much more challenging … Thanks, but even I have resorted to trustworthy, third party PPIs which helped to confirm and eliminate a need for my own long distance in-person inspections.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-ferrari-dino-8/ So C & F GTS a No Sale on BaT. Is anyone familiar with the car?
