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  1. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    IMO, the trick to winter testing is reliability. If the car is routinely unreliable there's a potential problem.

    Speed will come.
     
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  2. jpalmito

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    I clearly remember everyone wanted Todt to be fired after the Schumacher’s engine blow at the French GP start in 1996..
    My point is : things could change.
     
  3. ingegnere

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    Yes, I think much better but sadly a day late and a dollar short as Martin Brundle would say, or in this case a year late and a few tenths behind—just enough to not be able to win.

    Basically, they are where they should have been last year but thanks to the ineptitude of Binotto and Sanchez this is what we get.

    BTW, speaking of Binotto, interesting to how no one in F1 bothered with him after his sacking from Ferrari—says quite a bit about his perceived talents, I think.

    https://x.com/fifthgear10/status/1761027972998250709?s=46&t=lD5GNxRtu3XFC4q9cImZ_Q
     
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  4. jpalmito

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    I was exactly thinking the same about Binotto.
    In the end a good engineer but absolutely not a team manager.
    We will see next week where we stand compared with Red Bull.
     
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  5. Ferraripilot

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    The 2024 Ferrari looks good, could be a contender if they develop it really well this year. High hopes
     
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  6. Sig. Roma

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    Just saw this and wondered what thoughts are?

     
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  7. intrepidcva11

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    ............and next year...and the year after...and the year after that ! :mad:
     
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  8. USMCS6

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    We just need to understand.....
     
  9. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    We are checking...
     
  10. jpalmito

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    Congrats Fred Vasseur for highly improving this team!
    Very good pit stop, no strategy mistakes, car recovering a lot of pace compared with others, etc..
    No more bullshits with medias.
    Seriously what he can do better right now against this Red Bull team with a so strong and Flawless driver ?
    Nothing.
    I really hope for some reliability problems with the bulls and a good in season development for us to clinch some victories this year.
    Ps : The open war between Jos against Horner could lead to the possibility to hire some key members from their dream team in the near future.
     
  11. DF1

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    4. Ferrari's brake issue masks its tyre progress
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    Lead Ferrari runner Sainz was much closer to the Red Bulls than a year ago, but the red cars didn't have an entirely clean race thanks to brake troubles

    Photo by: Simon Galloway / Motorsport Images

    Ferrari had looked like being Red Bull’s ‘closest’ rival in testing before being somewhat usurped in considerations by Mercedes’ strong start in Bahrain practice. But it hit back in qualifying and should’ve had pole had Leclerc been able to replicate his Q2 speed.

    In the race, it never really got a chance to show what it could do. Its lead driver was quickly hobbled by having “more than 100 degrees [temperature] split between from front right and front left”. This left Leclerc constantly locking up and regularly off the road at the Turns 9/10 double left complex and eventually out of the podium fight that Sainz superbly took up.

    But the Spaniard was also struggling with “a lot of brake vibrations and the pedal at one point started to go long”. He suggested this was worse when running in traffic and put it down to how “in testing you never put yourself in 10 laps consecutive behind four cars getting all the hot air from the four cars in front and the brakes never cool down”.

    This suggests Ferrari went too aggressive with its brake cooling allowances and it proved to be costly for both its drivers, ultimately masking its race pace potential.

    Sainz also said: “To come to the most rear-limited track of the season, the highest degradation, and do an overtaking, attacking race for me is a relief.”

    This indicates Ferrari’s improved long-run tyre wear from testing has been realised in actual competition, which theoretically makes it a threat in future races where tyres can be pushed longer and Red Bull’s natural advantage is minimised.
     
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  12. Giallo 550

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    Yeah, I guess 3 and 4 aren’t all that bad given the circumstances.
     
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  13. furoni

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    I agree, WE couldn't see Ferrari's true pace, cause the fastest driver had issues. True that max didn't push to the limit, but if this was the worst circuit for tyre deg, then i guess we're in a much better place this year, and i believe we can chalenge and win a few races.
     
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  14. jpalmito

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    According to today's Gazzetta, Ferrari is making a strong offer to three keys Red Bull's engineers including Waché..
     
  15. furoni

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    Let's hope some of them accept...It0's not the first time they try waché wgom i think is a very good friend of Loic Serra
     
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  16. Bas

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    Sainz apparently won't compete any further due to being sick. Appendix apparently?
     
  17. DF1

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    Bearman replaces Sainz at Ferrari for Saudi Arabian GP after appendicitis diagnosis
    Ferrari's Carlos Sainz will miss the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix due to appendicitis, with Ferrari junior Oliver Bearman set for his Formula 1 debut as his replacement.
     
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  19. jpalmito

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    French connection !;)
     
  20. Giallo 550

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    Ferrari's season is off to a great start...
     
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    Vasseur “optimistic” on Sainz return ahead of decision next week
    Ferrari Formula 1 boss Fred Vasseur is “optimistic” that Carlos Sainz will be able to return to the cockpit for the Australian GP, with a decision to be taken next week.
     
  24. GOLD56

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    Vasseur would be better optimistic about some GP wins... It's not gonna happen.
     
  25. 375+

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    Respectfully disagree. Given the turmoil at RBR, a few wins might fall our way?
     
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