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2024 Australian GP: Post Race Analysis

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  1. swc5150

    swc5150 Formula Junior

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    I know one race doesn't make a career, but I agree Bearman has raised eyebrows. SF better not jettison that kid.
     
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  2. watt

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    Perez' car was damaged:

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/christian-horner-sergio-perez-australian-gp-damage
     
  3. watt

    watt Formula 3

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  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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  5. johnireland

    johnireland F1 Veteran
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    I assume Hamilton has all the money in the world...how much the Ferrari deal adds to it will probably not affect his personal life. But looking at his whole demeanor these past two years I see a growing frustration and selfdoubt. Will he still have his full confidence...and ability...when he first puts a Ferrari on track? Or will he fail to drive the car to its potential, and continue is downhill slide? As for Charles...he seems too willing to accept failure these days. He isn't showing himself to be a team builder in the Schumacher tradition. Nor does Hamilton. Ferrari may have made a very band and expensive decision. Maybe Ferrari should pay Carlos a fortune to drive the LeMans Ferrari and be able to bring him back to the F1 team on a moments notice.
     
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  6. GTS Bruce

    GTS Bruce Formula Junior

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    Ferrari. The team to go to and finish Off your career.
     
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  7. Hocakes

    Hocakes Formula Junior

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    NO :D Jump to 2:18




     
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  8. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    No wonder planetF1 is considered terrible journalism. No secret to their Hamilton butt licking but to suggest he takes a sabbatical because of a poor first 3 races. That's beyond pathetic. He is supposedly a pro, he should be driving each and every race to the best of his ability. Many have said he is the best ever, so he should be able to extract more out of the car than anyone else on this planet. That doesn't seem to be within his abilities. Never the less, boo effin hoo. He has never driven a car that was not capable of scoring points without some luck or some magic. Most drivers, even the great ones have had times in lousy cars. He is still in the 3rd or 4th best car and its only been 3 races. His first 10 races of 2009 were with a horrible car and they somehow turned it into a race winner that was faster than the Brawn GP cars.
     
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  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    clearly they're worried for another defeat over the season by a driver he shouldn't be beaten by...
     
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  10. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    His driving is not--the amount of money he brings is.
     
  11. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I would have thought that, being under the Red Bull umbrella, VCARD wasn't a team needing pay drivers.
    Can't see anything wrong with him, but he will never be a great driver, IMO.
     
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  12. 375+

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    Well said.
     
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  13. watt

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  14. watt

    watt Formula 3

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    thats my point, even planet thinks he's lost it
     
  15. SS454

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    I never understood this in motor racing. How does a driver "lose it"?

    It's not like typical sports where your body physically degrades and you aren't as strong, not as fast, not as agile, can't jump as high, etc. Of course the bodies recovery is a big factor. I don't even think F1 has a testing program for PED's like EPO so I absolutely suspect drivers are on it.

    You don't just lose the ability to drive a car. Fast twitch muscle fibers are not the end all and be all in racing. The only thing I can see a driver losing is the fire and motivation. I think Lewis lost that edge of needing to find every last hundredth of a second years ago against Bottas. Though I think he was able to push himself to get better than Russel for the second half of 2022 and had a great 2023.
     
  16. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Or an accident happens on the track and the driver just loses it i.e. Massa getting hit with that spring on his helmet. He never recovered his driving race-craft after that.

    Mostly it's adaptability. Most cannot adapt to the new regulations.
     
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  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Of course you do ! You age mentaly and the motivation slowly decline after many years.
    It varies from one individual to the other, but the skill set change. Staying competitive becomes harder.
    Older drivers rely on experience more to stay in the game against younger ones who are still fiery.
     
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  18. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    I've heard this before. Many say its unproven that drivers can adapt to different eras/regulations. Which is to say this current group, Max, Leclerc, Russell etc. may not have been successful in cars Alonso and Sir Lewis Hamilton started in. Meanwhile Sir Lewis Hamilton has shown to adapt winning in the hybrid and non hybrid era and strong in these new regulations beating every non RB driver last year.
     
  19. 375+

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    Can we please give the Sir Lewis Hamilton BS a rest? The only place I see or hear of him addressed that way is in this forum--that includes SKY sports and every major F1 website.
     
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  20. Bas

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    Clap for Lewis
     
  21. bobzdar

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    Can't lay anything on Hamilton as the car is clearly not in a good place. They had overheating issues in race 1 and in race 3 it obviously went kaboom. He was within a tenth of Russell in quali, which is closer than the Ferrari drivers were....That said, drivers aren't the issue at Ferrari and I don't think Hamilton moves the needle there on track.

    3 races in we can say Ferrari have addressed the issues of last year. No more tire deg issues, no more strategy issues - they actually out maneuvered Mclaren to get Leclerc up to 2nd, which is something we haven't seen them do often. Usually they are the ones getting out maneuvered, but a good car all of a sudden makes bad strategies good and opens up options. Now they need to add some more pace to the car, and they did bring a rear wing update to Australia which seems to have worked. The only possible thing they could have done better there was to wait 1 more lap for Sainz to pit, but then he'd just have had around a 10 second larger lead and wasn't threatened anyway.

    They're clear of everyone but Max at this point, but getting ahead of him will be no small feat...
     
  22. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Do you know how many times people asked for this?
     
  23. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #48 william, Mar 26, 2024
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    I think people who ask for this have a point. Constantly refering to individuals by their title is over-egging the pudding and sounds pompous in modern times; some of the recipients themselves would tell you so.
    I worked for a multinational company where most of the top management and the board members were titled.
    Many would stop people addressing them "Sir -----", or "Lord So-and-So", and prefered to be called in everyday life by their surname as Mister ------; it makes for a better atmosphere.
    That helps preventing a distance to build between people sharing the same space, or the same interest.
    Many sportmen and women come from the aristocracy in Britain, but hide their origins for that reason.
     
  24. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    I was referring to people talking about Sir Lewis Hamilton all together. Bringing him into every topic.
     
  25. Mitch Alsup

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    He has not had a front of the grid car for those same 2 years, after 7 years of glory.

    If Ferrari puts a front of the grid car under him, he can show us our opinion is at best premature.

    I think Sainz will find a good ride for '25.
    The above suggestion is about as good as he can hope for.
     

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