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What Cars are Unique (1 of 1)?

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  1. merstheman

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    I was reading a bit about the 412MI which was the ultimate development of the 315/335, and it struck me that the factory only built the one example - 0744MI. I was wondering: just how many cars in Ferrari's history are unique, one-of-one examples like that? I'm not really talking about Brunei cars or any of the SP series - I'm more interested in the vintage era, whether it's road cars or race cars. Bonus points if the entire car is a one-of-one, meaning unique chassis, engine, nomenclature etc. There mustn't be that many of them...
     
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  4. Marcel Massini

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    #4 Marcel Massini, Apr 8, 2024
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    0012 M.
    0191 EL.
    0228 AT.
    0425 GT.
    0456 AM.
    0476 AM.
    0477 SA.
    0488 AM.
    0719 SA,
    0853 GT.
    2207 SA.
    And on and on.

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  5. miurasv

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    400 Superamerica 1517SA.
    250 LM Stradale 6025.
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    275 GTB Competizione 07185.
    250 GT SWB Bertone 3269.
     
  6. merstheman

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    Let me rephrase the original question:

    How many cars with a distinct model name (i.e 412 MI) are there of which Ferrari made only 1? Or maybe let's say less than or equal to 5, so the speciale 275's fit the bill...

    I'm thinking maybe the 735/121 LM, 306 S, 312P, etc... (i may even be wrong citing these, which is why I'm asking in the first place).

    While the nice coachbuilt 250's are gorgeous, they share chassis with other more plentiful cars. So, for instance, the Zagato bodies 250's are unique, but they share engines and chassis types with the more "common" 250 TDF. Etc.

    I'm looking for the models which as a whole (chassis, engine, body) were very rare and unique. Even within the subset of rare and unique cars which is vintage era Ferrari.
     
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    Neither my favorites 312P 1969 (of which three were built) not the 1971 and onwards 312PB's of which several were built qualify.

    One car comes to mind that might. The Lusso like one off with longer chassis supposedly made for Enzo which decades later was at Ferrari of Denver and then with Guikas: Marcel your comment?
     
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    Oh and one of my absolute favorites, the 212E Montagna:)!
     
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    166P #IRRC 0834.

    I did a big article about it in Cavallino in the 90's.
     
  10. merstheman

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    I was going to mention that car but I wasn't sure if it was factory built.

    I ask this openly admitting to not even knowing if there are any cars out there that fit the exact specs I mentioned (even the 412 MI, I have no idea if it isn't just a 335 S chassis with different bodywork/engine).

    Just thought it might be interesting to get as close as possible to compiling these mega rare "one off" projects.
     
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    You in fact targeted all the cars I love and which I pursued for articles back when.

    0798 the 268SP V8 which in my view is the best sounding Ferrari ever. Yes.

    The 246Dino F 1 which Ferrari fitted with a Testarossa V12 for Pat Hoare, perhaps my favorite article ...etc...:)
     
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    I don't know if it's a factory official designation but Bruce Meyer's 625/250 TRC just might be my favorite Ferrari race car, but again, a car with shared components. My kind of wonderful - the TRC body with the 250 engine. Gorgeous.
     
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    0744, correct and official name 412S, not 412MI which is incorrect (yes I know famous Ferrari people call it 412MI) is not strictly a unique one off car although the chassis has a unique chassis tipo 524, but as far as I can gather the only difference to the tipo 520(B) used on other 4 cam S Sport cars was the way the clutch was mounted to the transaxle. 0744 was more unique when it had its initial 3 litre 4 cam engine and the car was officially called a 312S. The engine in 412S 0744 is not unique to the car being in other 335S cars and the actual engine previously used in the single seater 412MI and before that de Portago's fatally crashed Mille Miglia 335S #0646. The carbs in the car may be a bit different I think but it's only different in detail, not a one off. Of course all the 4 cam S Sport cars are very special Ferraris.
     
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    The 412MI transaxle is unique to that car. The rear mounted clutch is also unique to the 412MI. It is a "pull" type like some Lancia's.
     
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    The 412MI uses Weber carburetors, not the Solex's of the 290/315/335 Sports. The engine ran Solex's in the Mille Miglia (Portago crash), and the Weber's were installed for its use in the Monoposto at the 1958 Race of Two Worlds at Monza against the Indy cars. The 42 DCN's were bored out to about 44mm, and then sleeved back to 42mm for installation in the 412MI. The last 335 Sport, 0764 also was equipped with Weber's.
     
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    I dont know what the 412MI is worth now, but in the 2000’s when it was auctioned off here in Monterey, the scuttlebutt was that it was very difficult to tune. Hence it sold for low $1M range.
    current value?
     
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    $20mm+ ?
     
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    That was 2006 when 0744 actually sold for $5.61 million at Monterey. Had been bid about $1.5 million higher the year before at the Ferrari auction but it did not sell then.
     
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    No Steve, we only ran it through one auction, Monterey 2006. I drove the car on to the stage.
     
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    I know you are THE AUTHORITY on 0744 (as you are on other Ferraris) having worked on it and driven it extensively for the previous owner, so of course not disputing what you say. I'd read in the Forza article in the link here that the current owner had bid higher on the car in the June 2005 RM Auctions/Ferrari auction near Fiorano where it did not sell but managed to buy it for less a year later.
     
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    Steve: The car never left the US during our ownership. It never went to Italy for an auction. At least as my poor memory can recall.
     
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    What about 1010, the 512S turned into the unique 712 Canam?
     
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    This will be a never ending thread. Almost all Ferraris are unique. Except those mass-produced like the 308/328, etc...
    What's with this ? Not the creature, I mean the yellow car ?
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