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  1. Bon

    Bon Karting

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    How about a chopped rear end ala 250 GTO?
     
  2. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    This is the best guess so far. Nice.
     
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  3. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    This raises a good point. Should Miami event be considered the official reveal? Only if they also do the official press release announcing model, name and specifications to the public simultaneously with the event.
     
  4. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    850 or 865 GT
    Cant see it using an American name on the last Front Engine NA V12 Model range
     
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  5. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    Probably Italian name, yes. However, you never know with Ferrari. They like to be unpredictable. And you can’t totally discount the name America since the first large prospective client showing ( press release too? ) will be in America.

    As well … Daytona … California … both significant front engine V12 with names inspired by America
     
  6. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    865 Cavallino Rampante or just 865 Cavallino
     
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  7. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    A bit on the nose but not bad.

    My guess is that for this reason, Ferrari would never name a car Cavellino, but I wouldn’t be mad at it!
     
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  8. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Daytona was never official. Cali was right time right place. But not for the last.
     
  9. Tupps11

    Tupps11 Formula Junior

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    Not likely...ever. I recently read an article about the obscene profit margins made by Ferrari factory when selling the cars to their dealers. It's nearly ten times what other manufacturers make. Then the dealer adds a healthy margin too.

    If GMA can do it all over again, they would have priced the T.50 higher just to cover the increased cost of materials, components, and supply chain issues they faced during production. We have been patiently waiting for our cars for almost 4 years now. Gonna be worth it.

    GMA has a completely different mentality and Gordon has completely different reasons and motivations for his projects.

    Ferrari is a profit driven publicly traded company. Stock price is doing very well. Products are great. Profit is insane. They have no reason to change the formula. They will never create a package or product like GMA.
     
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  10. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    Want to get wild with outside the box speculation?

    Miami intro could mean name is Mexico or other Spanish language name.
     
  11. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    Enzo, LaFerrari and La Rossa possible for the F250 all on the nose
     
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  12. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    Good point about 1970’s Daytona not even being official name. Everyone forgets that. Myself included !
     
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  13. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
    978
    If they DID name a model Cavellino, it’s certainly hard to argue with it !
     
  14. magneti

    magneti Karting

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    No, it’s not all good. Clearly not to you. But you just keep on screaming from the sideline, and get more and more ignored. Rarely have I seen a more desperate attempt for attention from owners of cars that a person wishes he had. Your obsession is a little bit scary.

    You should get off your current path if you want to own one of these cars one day. And I know you do because you’re spending a disproportionate amount of time here but you ‘don’t wanna say haha lol I’m so mysterious guyz!’ which Ferraris you own. Because the answer is NONE.

    For one who constantly claims how right he is, you should have it all figured out in life already. But you just keep patting yourself on the back.

    All you have is the thoughts in your head, because you can’t get on the road and drive these cars. Fake it but you will never make it. A legend in your own mind, focused on the wrong things.

    That sums that up.
     
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  15. magneti

    magneti Karting

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    The most sensible conclusion. The guy even hit like on your post, it went right over his head, as inflated as it is.
     
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  16. magneti

    magneti Karting

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    Now the discussion can get back on track. :D
     
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  17. DavidJames1

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    100% agree.
     
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  18. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

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    #7643 Forza Scuderia, Apr 12, 2024
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    “Just as I was trying to get out … they pull me back in”

    Amazing how many people are chirping at me ( and now there’s another country heard from ) for making the following obvious and incontrovertible statement:

    “Regular production Ferraris will depreciate.”

    Outrageous claim I’m making isn’t it?

    What does it say about people who choose to argue with this statement? it says more about them than it does about me …
     
  19. DavidJames1

    DavidJames1 Formula 3

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    Agree with your logic - Gordon has a completely different approach. It will be interesting to see what happens to margins when cars go fully electric.
     
  20. 4re4ever

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  21. JJ77

    JJ77 Formula Junior

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    Maybe it’s the Public Reveal, but I’m heading to factory sometime week beginning 22 April with a Euro Dealer. I would be very surprised if there weren’t other people there…
     
  22. Shack

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    Hearing that the front will be very "daytona'ish" with flat section (in a different colour) between the headlights... homage to the Daytona

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  23. Lukeylikey

    Lukeylikey F1 Rookie
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    Don’t want to keep the values thing going but am going to anyway. I think the point about cars depreciating is obvious to anyone who has ever owned a car. The objection is that it is not so straight-forward with Ferraris. Rather than offer opinions, I’ll first offer facts from my own experience.

    First new Ferrari bought, Speciale. Not a limited car, it has never been worth less than what I paid for it, even after 14k miles. It’s now worth significantly more. The next two were Lusso and 488 Spider. I lost money on both, the Lusso I made a mistake with and suggested too low a price to the dealer (based on what I had seen advertised and auction prices) and he snapped my hand off and bought the car rather than suggest SOR. Just goes to show, advertised prices and forum chatter is not always where the market is. The depreciation was fairly high for the age on both cars.

    Next up, 812 Superfast, our first TM. It is worth less today than what we paid but it has a lot of TM cost and the delta is less than expected. Then Pista Spider, again, not a limited car but worth more than what I paid and has never been worth less, though we have used it so only a little more than we paid. Our GTS is three years old and for two of those years did pretty well but has fallen now, but still to quite a reasonable level given it has been on various road trips and is a well kept used example.

    SF90s. Biggest loss we have experienced but I still bought a spider, which has lost less but that car is also TM and I bought it to keep and use. The coupe we’ll sell at some point. We’re paying a lot to be SF90 owners but then the experience is a lot too. Perhaps the XX Spider will mitigate the cost but wither way….what a car!

    Our Comp - yes, a limited car. But we wouldn’t have been offered one without being passionate and enthusiastic customers - which we very much are. That is worth enough over the purchase price to make this journey look ‘sensible’ at least from a financial viewpoint.

    I must have missed some cars. But the point is, you cannot say all non limited cars depreciate. They don’t. Some do. It only depends on demand and supply at any given point over the subsequent 50 years + after registration. We bought a 360 CS years ago. Held it for 2 years and nearly doubled our money. That therefore shows that it is far too simplistic to say what every owner knows - depreciation occurs. But timing changes everything and depending on what your ownership strategy is, and how you derive value from owning these things, the experience can be financially very reasonable, and value-wise, even more so.

    Everybody knows about depreciation, but our experience is that it is far less simple than that. I think that’s why comments from some posters rub people up the wrong way.
     
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  24. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
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    Respect the hell out of you as a member and as a valuable and thoughtful contributor to this entire site. With that being said, name a car that you did NOT lose money on that was NOT a Versione Speciale, ie a regular production car. I’ll wait.
     
  25. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

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    If you can afford a new Ferrari, but are worried about depreciation; you couldn't afford one in the first place!
     
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