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  1. aenglish87

    aenglish87 Rookie

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    With typical miles (29k), over $100k in factory options (sticker of $408k) and over $30k in high quality upgrades (Novitec, ADV, etc) I thought this was good (if not great) value.

    I love the bold red interior to contrast the more subdued white exterior. Same seemingly highly desirable combo as the recent $300k auction sale.

    It seems the drastic difference in option levels of the FF market (with highly optioned cars having 100k+ higher original sticker) are not really being reflected in current market prices. Which makes the higher optioned cars a great target and great value vs similarly priced low to average optioned examples. I thought this one on BAT would get into the high 130s or 140s easily being one of the highest optioned FFs I’ve seen on the market recently.
     
  2. priericky128

    priericky128 Formula Junior
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    Yeah I have seen the same thing. I personally do not care about the options very much, so it does not really matter to me.

    It seems like a higher spec car should command a bigger premium, but that just does not seem to be the case. I think part of that is that at the top of the range, you are right at Lusso prices, so there is only so high FF values can go (not including unicorn spec/mileage examples).
     
  3. dilmorecg

    dilmorecg Rookie
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    I think options matter to an extent. I think selling modified cars rarely bring a premium and usually a discount. From what ive been watching the last 8 mo. or so is that cuico interior cars usually sell quicker.
     
  4. aenglish87

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    Agree that many options on these are just personal preference and may not carry significant price value from one buyer to the next but there are some primary options that are very commonly desirable (like the pano roof, carbon fiber, etc) that carry price/value/desirability weight. Especially as the FF moves from depreciating to appreciating/collectible. In the long run, the relatively low production numbers should make the highly optioned with excellent color combo examples a premium.

    I think The FF is as likely as any recent/modern car to develop a cult like fan following and collectible desirability with corresponding appreciating values o er the next 10+ years.
     
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  5. leopoldo

    leopoldo Formula Junior

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    I owned two v12 Lusso and waiting for the delivery of the FUV ( and already tested ) . I have drove last week an FF an many other Ferraris in the past and rest of my life . I can strongly say the FF is one of the best sounding Ferrari EVER ( better than lusso , f12 and for some way also 812.. ) and for sure the best sounding four seater ever ( included purosangue ) . If you can afford. It , buy now , very soon there will not be the possibility to own such a beautiful car at a reasonable price .
     
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  6. ANOpax

    ANOpax Formula 3

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    This is true. It was our youngest son who spotted that the FF sounds better than the F12 (we expected the reverse). Other Fchatters who own or have owned both cars tend to agree.
     
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  7. Altoria F

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    Right, that is the reason I put a Kline exhaust on my F12 :)
     
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  8. PTC

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    makes me really wonder if it were bone stock with those 5-spoke silver factory rims, factory suspension, factory records -- maybe $150k?-$175k? More? It ownership was fully factory documented? Remember we had White over Red a while ago on Mecum or whichever auction that went for what, $225k? -- the one with just garage-only miles? So realistically, for 2012-2016, with fully documented ownership, factory maintenance, original build sheet, existing dealer relationship (to secure parts going forward) -- I'm saying if it's a nice color, nice spec (no McDonalds Yellow & Red), then maybe $175k? Ish? I mean fully factory fingerprinted car. Up to $225k here today, as per BAT historical records. I'm no rep of BAT, but check the historical snapshots. The NiemanMarcus one was nice too... The white one that sold on 7/11/2025 for $160k w/30k miles is another nice example of our current ballpark....
     
  9. priericky128

    priericky128 Formula Junior
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    I still can’t quite understand how somebody paid 160 for that white on on bat. Seems like an outlier.
     
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  10. PTC

    PTC Karting

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    Look how many fewer are selling year over year. If it checks the boxes on provenance (22k miles of ownership history? all records? yes please!) this one is/was worth all of $160 if not more without a little personal spec issues on colors. Has books, records, sticker, everything. Stock. $160k. Totally fair. Undervalued, a bit, even.
     
  11. KennethCDO

    KennethCDO Karting

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    Definitely seems like both FF and Lusso prices have slowly risen over the past 1-1.5 years…
     
  12. Elasto

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    definitely.
    the european market shows an increase in FF prices of about 20 percent, since I started to watch the market in 2019 (that's when I bought my FF), not taking into account the crazy COVID-years, where prices were everything but normal, but also taking into account the dreaded inflation.

    In 2019 there were about 100 FF available in Europe on mobile.de, now there are 40, with the colour-combination beeing a MAJOR price factor.
    Also more and more cars have their PTU/DCT replaced/overhauled, showing that the market knows about the FF flaws and how to address them.
     
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  13. willcrook

    willcrook F1 Rookie
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    they've been underpriced here for ages now, considering an FF with the Novitec exhaust is probably the best sounding car they've made I think it's nuts!
     
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  14. priericky128

    priericky128 Formula Junior
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    I think it’s right prices are up a bit from a year ago. I’m rooting for the increase but I am a little surprised by it.

    the ff is the best dad car there is tho so maybe people are finally getting wise to that.
     
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  15. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    FFs do seem to be having a bit of a renaissance.
     
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  16. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I've been watching the Lusso market, and I agree that prices have increased a bit. Mostly what has happened is that the sub-$200k cars have been sold or taken off the market, but cars at, say, $210 with some miles are still there and have been for a long time. The super high dollar cars are still sitting there.
     
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  17. cromwrima

    cromwrima Rookie

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    Mine will hit 60k miles by the end of the year, I dread to think what it will be worth as it's coming up to 14 years old as well.
     
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  18. Ouds83

    Ouds83 Karting

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    I like to think about what are those years of driving a ferrari and putting those miles on worth?
    I daily drive my Lusso currently in the chicago area. I have put about 12k miles on in 9 months.
     
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  19. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    For info on the price of FFs i just bought a 2013 FF with 16k miles black with coiuo diamond interior paid 143K …i missed a few others I was looking at but wanted an upgraded interior…
     
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  20. priericky128

    priericky128 Formula Junior
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    there was one at my local dealer with around 12k miles with a non-base (but not overly lavish either) interior they had advertised for 149 and it was sold within a week or two (dont know the final sale price), so that sounds like a good deal and right about where the market is right now.
     
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  21. Gh21631

    Gh21631 F1 Veteran
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    Did you also consider a Lusso?
     
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  22. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    Yes .. but was looking for a non-glass roof and not black or base interior..
    And from I could find the FF has a better sound. .I will post a couple of pictures of the car when i get it…that said , if I had found the right Lusso I would have bought that ..
     
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  23. Gh21631

    Gh21631 F1 Veteran
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    I had 14' FF, great car. It definitely sounds better than the Lusso. If I dont keep my Purosangue, there's a good chance I puck up a Lusso.
     
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