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Discussion in '296' started by ajr550, Jun 5, 2022.

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  1. CinciOptics

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    Because no electric assist would result in "performance gaps" that the 700 series experiences and the 296 does not.

    I think it would be more likely for them to figure out a way to keep some form of electrical assist through means of battery reduction (weight) while increasing IC power.

    Turbos in a 2024 EV world needs that electric assist to be competitive, even if it is minor (loading the turbos at lower rpms).
     
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  2. 4re4ever

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    #427 4re4ever, Apr 17, 2024
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    If its Non Hybrid like the (The 296 GT3 and 296C at 690hp) even with the drop in weight the standard model will out preform it.
    So I say this The F250 will have a V6 maybe it has been increased from 2.96 L to 3.96L. So that said as the Vs is the last model before the 296 replaced maybe it is time to intro a bigger engine and say a 3.46 L engine that way with the drop in weight and Hybrid gone the increase in engine size should make it out preform the standard model.

    Making the Vs 800hp non Hybrid, weighing 1150- 1250 kg kerb dry to that of the standard model at 819hp with hybrid and 1470kg kerb dry
     
  3. KL runner

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    The problem is that many punters like looking at the ‘stats’ and if I have more horse power than you , then my car must be better . Not necessarily true . Even now Ferrari has to consider dialling down the challenge version. Why?
    The challenge car can pull 340km/h , do Ferrari want to put that in the hands of the average road driver ? Is there a benefit for them ? Hardly except for bragging rights .
     
  4. 008

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    And it seems many use a generic outperform context of straight line acceleration or one short lap. Performance over multiple laps of a circuit is another ball of wax. Ask the corso pilota folks how many ceramic discs they go through in an event.

    I know most will never track their cars and even fewer will push them hard on the track for multiple seasons but for those of us who do, I’m open to less straight line performance for greater track performance and durability.
     
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  5. 4re4ever

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    This was discuss look back a few pages. and stats with a 200kg drop in weigh and the similar hp will mean a lot on top of all the aero and other updated parts. This will destroy the base model
     
  6. Maximus1973

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    You mean the 488 Challenge Evo runs 340km?
    I actually did a top speed run on an empty high way and the top speed is 301km.
     
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  7. Maximus1973

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    Ferrari never makes a 'new engine' for a limited series. all limited series cars have all adopted the base model architecture.
    I would love for them to exclude the batery pack, but I doubty they will.
    A very, VERY large percentage of Ferrari buyers never track their cars and are all about stats.
     
  8. KL runner

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    Ferrari dialled it back to ensure a lower top speed , I guess they do not want the risks of such a potent car in the hands of the general customer populous , especially on highways
     
  9. 4re4ever

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    Well all the mules have been non hybrid to date. no stickers
     
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  10. Maximus1973

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    You do realize the 488 Challenge is a race car and not allowed on public roads?
    In no way is that car dialed back.
    It's the aero and gearing that's limiting the top speed.
     
  11. Ilferrarista92

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    that’s not the 296 VS mule which will be hybrid as the standard 296
     
  12. F2003-GA

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    Then what kind of mule is it ? Maybe a third model ? :)
     
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  13. ab08

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    A third model, or maybe the Icona SP4?
     
  14. Ilferrarista92

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    SP4 (F40 Icona) or new V8 segment above 296.
     
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    I'm not suggesting Icona the other person is But I'm thinking more the lines of a lightweight club sport edition or may even surprise with a manual shifter
     
  16. Ilferrarista92

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    I am sure that @day355 and @Condor Man know what it is but they are under NDA :D
     
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  17. REALZEUS

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    You do realise that most Ferraris are able to do 330+ kph for more than a decade now. No?
     
  18. 4re4ever

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    So in other words you have no idea
     
  19. 4re4ever

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    Do you know this for fact ?
     
  20. KL runner

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    Well find a track in a Pista to wrap it out and you will see your statement is not quite right .

    Road cars / challenge cars top out at less than 330 , and on a road with no roll cage and a lap sash seat belt , good luck
     
  21. REALZEUS

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    Road legal Ferraris can do 330+, easily attainable on any European motorway. I managed an indicated 320 kph in an F430, 15 years ago. So you are mistaken about thinking that Ferrari is restricting top speed for such reasons.
     
  22. KL runner

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    Your original claim is

    ‘ most Ferrari’s can do 330+ km/h for more than a decade now ‘ that is simply not true
     
  23. mkraft3003

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    488, F8, F12, 812, sf90, 296 all can. Roma and port can not but are close. So most can.
     
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  25. 488gtbmasergt

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    #450 488gtbmasergt, Apr 21, 2024
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    And I will add, just for fun, coming back from a track day in Spain, I managed to reach 302kph(speedometer) on the track. That just came out to be 286kph on the gps tracker...
    So, to get to be at an "effective" 330kph you should see nearly 350kph in the car speedometer. I have not seen many claiming to have seen this... ;)
     

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