How many more races/WDC’s does Max have to win before the experts at FC declare “it’s the car”. Asking for the “common people” (wow, that’s some ego right there)
Never forget Russell Sakhir . It was awesome and proves a huge point about the car, and Mr. Sir 7 time, cheater car and regs and in fia pocket Hamilton
A rookie has no business tying Alonso in his prime (technically it wasn't a tie, Sir Lewis Hamilton beat him). A rookie also has no business getting special treatment becoming # 1 driver. But Sir Lewis Hamilton was no regular rookie, he was great. Weak excuses for Schumacher. As great as you say he was (and he was great) He should have beat Rosberg. Everybody knows Russell will never be Sir Lewis Hamilton. He has no interest to beat Russell, he is used to bigger goals.
Common fan. General fan. Hopefully more but not excluded to the "DTS" fan. I apologize if that offended anyone that likes to be offended by nature. If you're the fan that looks at 3 or 4 statistical criteria or heard from a friend or a parent and gauged a driver on that limited information, you likely fall into the category of "common". As to answer your question, only the Lewis lovers or Max haters (who seem to be the same people) want to believe Max is only winning because of the car. However, anyone with some common sense will say he is only winning 19 races in a season or every single race he doesn't have an issue, is because of the car. You gotta be smokin something to think he would be winning this many races without the best car. Would he win 10+ races in a year if he didn't have the best car, or at best equal to the best? Well he has done it before.
As crazy as it may seem, we mostly agree here. A rookie should not have done that well against Alonso. I think Alonso might have been too cocky for his own good going into 07 because he didn't think Lewis would be that strong. Lewis was a great rookie, nobody can deny that. A rookie never should get #1 treatment over a 2x defending champion. Yet Ron Dennis wanted Lewis to win. Former McLaren mechanics have wrote about the bias. Fernando should have just stepped up and done his job, but I understand why he'd be insulted and po'd about that. McLaren made the mistake of going with Lewis, they would have won the championship with Alonso. Technically it was a tie. Technically Lewis beat him based on 2nd place finishes. Weak excuses for Schumacher, maybe. But I agree, we all thought Michael should have beat Rosberg easily. However, you won't find too many people that believe Michael with Mercedes was the same level as the Michael with Ferrari. Weak excuses or not, he wasn't quite the same. But he got better. As I said, he was the faster driver in 2012, and we know Rosberg was able to be the faster driver over Lewis. So I guess Schumacher wasn't too bad even though his results didn't show it. Saying Lewis doesn't care about beating Russell and has bigger goals. Now that's a big excuse. If that were true, that is some loser mentality if I've ever seen it. Most of have seen that type of behavior... in kindergarden.
No excuse. Sir Lewis Hamilton has said the car is not a title contender. Came across as his focus was not beating Russell. I think the only people excited about him and Russell are haters, which is fine if that makes them feel better. But its useless to me.
We need an F1 drinking game where every time KTU uses “Sir” we do a shot of bourbon. Lmao nobody would be standing long! Might help pass the time this season while Max (is it Sir or Mad?) pulls off into the sunset
I'm still trying to figure out how Hamilton got into a thread about Newey leaving Red Bull... Silly me, I forgot that NO F1 thread is safe from certain people that dislike him (Hamilton) yet still bring him up, even when he has NOTHING to do with the thread subject. Weird. PS. For those keeping score, it seems the first Hamilton mention didn't occur until post #184, which then set the entire thread (as usual) off into the "Hamilton's a bum, I won't pull for Ferrari as long as Hamilton's there, I want Newey to go the Aston Martin..., etc"
Eddie Jordan (Newey's friend and manager) thinks it's retirement. He's been very accurate RE Red Bull/Newey last few years. But could well be a typical eddie ploy of getting even more money out of whatever offer is out there. Max doesn't beat around the bush and everything he's said so far leads me to believe that Newey is tired of F1 and wants some time to relax, spend time with his family/boat.
FYI he is part of the thread because several F1 news outlets have reported that Newey has mentioned he’d like to work with Lewis. If that is indeed one of the deciding factors in his decision to go to Ferrari or not then it most certainly makes sense to come up in this discussion. After all this is a speculation thread.
Does anyone outside of this forum address Lewis as Sir Lewis? I've only seen it here, nowhere in the motoring or mainstream media.
90% of the names they call him here I don't see addressed outside of this forum, Elton, Hamdashian etc.
well, yes and no. Ferrari made its own car in 48 - and won some Grand Prix .... and entered the CSI ( FIA ) world championship in 1950.... Ferrari - Scuderia Ferrari the racing team existed since the late 20's. running Alfa cars. while there was no official world championship there were Grand Prix, Grand Epreuve races ... that counted to a championship in the 30s... these were not however organized into a proper series .. and the rules were determined by the organizers vs. a governing body like the CSI ( FIA ) ....
AIACR European Championship The European Drivers' Championship was an annual competition in auto racing that existed prior to the establishment of the Formula One world championship in 1950. It was established in 1931 and ran until the end of 1939 with a hiatus from 1933–34, and awarded points to drivers based on the results of selected Grand Prix races, the so-called Grandes Épreuves (this term had been used for the most prestigious races since the 1920s; the only Grande Épreuve to be excluded from the championship was the 1931 German Grand Prix). The championship was discontinued because of the outbreak of World War II in 1939, and no champion was officially declared for the last season.* The championship was run by the Association Internationale des Automobile Clubs Reconnus (AIACR), the forerunner to the FIA who are today's world governing body of motorsport. AIACR European Championship - Wikipedia Minoa and Nuvolari won it in 1931/32. Then it was only German drivers on German cars. Caracciola in 35, 37, and 38 with Mercedes. Rosemeyer in 36 with Auto Union. *The 1939 season was never finished with the start of WWII, but H.P. Mueller on Auto-Union was leading the championship, so should have been decerned the title, but he never received it. Instead, the German government attributed it to Hermann Lang on Mercedes.
Williams in talks with Newey about F1 reunion Williams Formula 1 boss James Vowles has said his team is in discussions with design legend Adrian Newey about trying to lure him back to the squad.
