No thats called 1 team exploiting the rules better than the rest, you cant punish the best team because the others failed... im anything but a mercedes fan, but even in their glory years i didnt want them to be held back by rules to help other teams, they just need to work harder and better...
exactly! give them a choice what motor they want to develop for example just put a max amount of L petrol they can use in the weekend, or a limit on amount of engines like they already do, 1 team will come with a V6 like now, the other might develop a V12 again, that would make it great again!
That may have been a 2023 problem, but it's not really an issue this year. Teams are beginning to catch up and it looks like we may have a competitive season on our hands. This will of course all change in 2026 when 1 team gets the new rules right and dominates until the others catch up. None of that, of course, has any relevance to Monaco. In Monaco the cars are the problem.
Agree totally but the sport has moved on from the 70's. I remember sitting at st Devote in 81 watching Gilles hitting the barrier on every lap to straighten the car up for the uphill climb. The drivers today havent got the nuts to do that anymore
I don't think it's the driver's not having "the nuts" but rather the cars are to fragile and all the new rules make it impossible- I'm sure if any of today's guys did that either the car would break or some moron FIA Steward would assess the ridiculous and newly popular "track limits" penalty- which makes me puke every time I see it- "track limits" are the ****ing barriers-
Again budget ..............budget..........budget. You hit anything and its being billed out to your yearly. Not hitting is better.
He retired his Williams with a stuck throttle? Not sure how that's relevant. Massa finished 9th in the other Ferrari if that's what you were asking, but he also started at the back.
You miss the point - flat out racing, no stops, no BS Tony BTW he only kissed the Armco, not smacked into it!
I think the point is that people want to ditch Monaco because it's a "boring" race. My point is today's cars are too big for Monaco... and many other tracks. change the formula. Go back to cars the same size as they were in 1990. there will be a huge revolution in miniaturization... for the same things, the current cars have. In my opinion, the major problem with F1 is there is not much direct spill into regular road cars... when in the 70's 80's and 90's there was a direct impact. F-1 is no longer Flat out racing... that is qualifying for about 4 laps. all races are way under qualification times, and frankly the formula is to win at the slowest pace possible. NO driver wants to race hard when they dont have to. Flat out racing is a misnomer ... its sensationalized.... some of the greatest drives were not flashy or "flat out"... but a demonstration of skill, grit and determination.
That is all fine, the issue is the bloody ties. Again and again, every time there is a Red Flag, they reset the tire situation and everybody can do whatever they want, change them, fix them, polish them and at the end, the strategy is reset. This evens out everybody - if the Red Flag comes half way, the outcome is more drastic. In this race effectively it killed it. Monaco (and Hungary for the matter) should impose two stops per race. Deal with it. Because one is almost does nothing, specially in Hungary. If you don't have new tires, well, take used ones, but that would bring more into the races.
I mean - on one hand you have people lamenting that things in f1 are just done for the show, like DRS. Now we have people calling for fake methods to increase the show. Make up your minds. Smaller cars would not fix this problem imo, it would not give more passing spots on monaco. The driver in front could still go 2-3 seconds slower by going slow in the really low speed stuff and then full speed in the 2 or 3 passing zones. You might tighten things up a bit but that's monaco, period. Unless you have a large (real) pace gap, not one that is artificial due to tire conservation in parts of the track, there is no passing, small old car or modern car. Sometimes the race circumstances create a lot more passing, like with rain, or somebody in a quick car going out in q1 (or getting disqualified from qual), or a mid race red flag that puts cars on opposing strategies, but in this case it went the other way. If you want a ton of meaningless passing, go watch Nascar or indycar ovals where they pass each other all race but none of them matter until the last 5 minutes when they all go crazy and crash each other. If that's your idea of good racing, go watch it. I won't watch f1 if it turns into that.
I was not going for the Nascar way, or Indy for the matter, and even Electric (I saw a post somewhere, that the Formula E Monaco race had 197 overtakes!), but in light of the impossibility of overtakes in Monaco (and Hungary! nobody overtakes there), the only "action" is in between pitstops. If you force some pitstops, you know that the others have to stop, so you could try to push, as opposed to cruise and have a cigar, and try to accomplish something.
They already have an enforced pit stop, it just occurred on lap 1 in this race due to circumstances. I guess they could tweak that - you have to make one non-red flag pit stop and use more than one tire compound in the race. So you can change tires under red flag, but you will have to change them again regardless of whether you've used both compounds. I could see this causing weird stuff like taking the same tires off and putting them on again, or just pulling into the pits and then pulling right back out, though. It would mix stuff up and prevent a red flag from basically nullifying any strategy if it happens early.
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Gaining a place through a pit stop is not racing, and I doubt is it is very satisfactory to the driver. After all, the credit for gaining position in a pit stop is due to the crew, and not the driver. Imposing one pit stop, like it exists now, is already artificial, IMO. So, why want 2 tyres changes at Monaco and Hungary, if it's only to see some cars changing places, but not witnessing any actual overtaking on the circuit ? It doesn't make sense to me.
I know pitstops are not a substitute for overtakes, what I'm trying to say is that without them, there is nothing in those two tracks. Even in the old days Hungary has been traditionally boring if there is no rain. Why did Crashonaldo managedd to get a win? Yes, he qualified better in that race (did it rain in quali?), but because nobody could bloody overtake there. Now, Monaco again, the only recent winners not from pole position is because, either it rained or it was damp, or there was a Safety Car or Red Flag impacting strategies. I don't recall when was the last time there was an overtake there for first place. My thinking about having two forced stops in those two tracks is because of two fold: they are relatively short circuits, so they have more than 70 laps without doing much because the straight is so short and in Monaco, we know why, and second, because you really "spice" the tire compounds so that teams could really try different strategies. Otherwise, in my opinion, those two races are qualifying exercises. Yes, we got artificial help: DRS, two tire compounds, and so on, but even with those, in certain tracks, it is not enough to help racing.
Mandatory pitstops is getting awfully close to Nascar's predetermined caution crap. The requirement to use two different compounds and DRS are already artificial ways to increase excitement in F1, if we need to look at more then there is clearly something wrong. Given it's not such an issue in other tracks, it clearly shows Monaco is a problem. The cars are too big yes, but smaller cars do not suddenly mean lots of passing and great races at Monaco. The cars won't have a chance to shrink to a size that will make a proper difference until 2030. People talk about tradition in F1. Sorry that has been bought out long ago. Besides, tradition in Monaco is exciting qualifying and boring races. It has been that way the best of the last 30 years. It's honestly quite embarrassing that F1 hypes up Monaco as THE crown jewel of the season, and it provides the absolute worst races year after year.
I think a shorter wheel base car and a bit more narrow would make for more competitive Monaco... but yes fundamentally I doubt it will improve the show much. F-1 has not historically been a "show" ... its really more like Mobile chess.
Isnt flat out racing......demonstration of skill, grit and determination - Possibly one of the greatest was the dual between Villeneuve and Arnoux = Flat out racing. Who remembers a flashy drive, whatever that is
