Anyone that doesn't recognize Lewis being at fault for Silverstone is a special kind of delusional or has a special kind of prejudice against Max. Max was ahead, has a right to the outside, gave plenty of space. Lewis drove in and missed the apex by a mile and hit Max. This forum is full of Leclerc fans and yet recognize when he makes mistakes. Lewis fans just can't do it, at least when Max is involved.
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Missing the apex is within the rules. Drivers miss an apex a hundred times during a race. Max turned into Sir Lewis Hamilton. He caused the accident. He changed direction into Sir Lewis Hamilton. If you're fighting for a championship and you see a driver beside you missing the apex but both of you are fully on track. Do you: A. turn into that person to cause an accident. B. Avoid contact to finish the race. Drivers miss an apex a hundred times during a race. Doesn't mean you have to cause contact with that person.
I call Lewis out all the time for his BS. but comn. If two racers are fighting for a corner the apex is legit meaningless. And Hamilton was going to hit the apex until max rear right hit his left front and opened his steering to the left wheel, increasing the attack angle thus making him miss the apex. Why does it do that? Becuase you know, the wheel is attached to the steering wheel. Crazy concept, I know. Observe: They both are gunning for it. Even here, Max is driving as if Hamilton does not exist. He does leave Ham space though. Image Unavailable, Please Login Lewis is still going to hit the apex, but a wild Max appears. Notice the football fields of space to Maxs left. Lewis meanwhile, has limited space to to make the corner cleanly. Image Unavailable, Please Login OMG Lewis misses the Apex. Wonder why? Maybe becuase an out of control Dutchman ran into his front wheel. Image Unavailable, Please Login Max simply got to greedy. If he would have conceded that Hamilton had the line he could have kept in the race. But no, he rather wanted a trip to the scenery.
So this is Copse and you're entering the apex at 180+ mph. Max is on the racing line and Lewis is not. Lewis's line upon exiting Copse takes Lewis wide past the Apex. Hence why Lewis got a penalty from the Stewards. Same thing happened between Grosjean and Sainz as well entering Copse in 2018. Sainz had the racing line and Grosjean was shallow entering Copse. You don't want to be shallow(inside line) while entering Copse with another driver along side you on the racing line(outside line).
The contact at Copse eliminated Max from the race, while Hamilton went on to win, even with a token penalty. An injustice had been committed, and the Silverstone result was going to weight heavily in the WDC result. When the FIA endorsed the Abu Dhabi result a few months later, in spite of Masi "interpreting" the rules, I thought justice had been done. Too often officials decisions had protected Hamilton; on that day he received his comeuppance !! I was so glad Max was declared WDC, a driver I didn't particularly liked until then.
So a driver should get a penalty if they not on the racing ine? Aww man we gonna see 50 penalties a race!
Image Unavailable, Please Login Seen at the point of impact, Max's trajectory was well wide of the apex. He was giving space. Lewis you can see was also well wide of the apex and it his responsibility to keep the car tight within the space Max gave him. Lewis understeered and his trajectory was going into Max no matter what. Let's remember that Max was ahead and on the racing line. He does not have to concede to a guy behind making a lunge up the inside. He did the right thing by giving space. 100% Lewis' fault.
We are talking about Copse so stay on subject instead of "broad stroking the canvas" or "generalizing" to fit some narrative.
Look at the replay. See which car changes direction into the other car. Its so clear, Stevie Wonder can see it in a dark room.
Silverstone 2021 at best, it could be considered a "racing incident", but in view of your religious devotion to SIR Lewis Hamilton, I don't expect you to share that view. That's fine. It's been done and dusted; justice was done a few months later, and Max got his 1st title, and 2 more since.
It's a real shame folks cannot come to the conclusion that both Max and Lewis are great drivers. But this IS perhaps the most interesting, fun(ny) thread there is on FC, reading these silly arguments being broken down to the microscopic level is pretty entertaining...
Heres the thing though. If a driver manages to stick it up your inside he wins the line. Max has used this many times to his own advantage, even in the same season. You can hold your normal line becuase obviously you cant magick the other guy away. You have to comprimise your line. Thats racing.
So by that definition a dive bomb equals the right to the position by default? Ocon earned the spot over Gasly in Monaco? You are also saying that no car is allowed to pass on the outside because the inside guy always wins the racing line? Besides, Max was on the racing line, not Lewis. Max just gave him space because Lewis pushed his car in there. I have no issues with Lewis going for that pass, he just didn't keep his car under control. Thus his fault.
You can pass on the outside, like Lecerc did to Hamilton...at Copse. One of the ballsiest passers ever btw, and it wasnt televised.
Both drivers had space. Its not his responsibility to keep the car tight within the space Max gave him. Max had room himself that he could have used as a "responsibility" to avoid contact. Again if you watch the video, one driver changes direction and make contact with another driver. Once you change direction and get close to another car, you are asking for whatever comes next.
Yeah I agree it could have been a racing incident. Imo its no need for justice to be done for Max if Max changes direction a turns into someone.
I tracked autobahn 4 sessions yesterday I dint stuff anyone in high speed. And its not the point that "all drivers" bs. He wasnt gonna back out. wheel next to Sir Royalty Max was a stupid stupid fool entitled move on jester hamilton. jeezuz you guys and this punk of a driver. All argumentative discussions in F1 are about the lil doll .
