The 456/550/575 BaT auction thread

disagree. 6-speed gated is holey water for my 19 year old and his friends. The desire will not age out.

I think they will keep going ang going. Look at 330 GTC pricing today. These are better cars. There are so many examples. $1mm in a decade is not unrealistic.

I have seat time in both a Daytona and F40, and there is no comparison FYI.

 

Again, my teenager and his friends could care less about the newer ferrari's as they all want 6-speed gated cars. They dream of Murcie's and any gated Ferrari. I go to the local Saturday car show with them often, and when I take the 550, the "kids" all go crazy. I think you are VERY wrong about this age range.

Also, I have seat time in Daytona's and they are not better in anyway, other than current value.

Open the exhaust on a 550 and its as raw and visceral IMHO with a much better driving experience!

Demand is driven by supply and emotion. You cannot look at the 550 #'s in a void. Look at the #'s of cars that are available in 6-speed gated with V12 motors. Look at Murcie manual pricing. That is where 550 pricing is going IMHO. Its just going to take a bit longer. The emotion IS there with the young and yet to have money crowd - and there are very few cars that are V12 gated manuals.

 

anyone notice that Ferrari Scottsdale did the belts this year for less than $2500 - that is unreal. That is VERY special pricing!

 

Which one did you like best? Or can you say?

 

Regarding pricing. Does anyone remember the 1997 yellow 550 that Drivers Source sold on BaT last year? It went for, what, $190k or something? I looked at that car a few months earlier. I could have brought it for $125K. It had a shade under 10,000 miles. It was bone stock. I bet it still had Maranello air in the tires. I was tempted. Devil get behind me. But I got to thinking about how much money it would take to make it a driver. Moreover, you don't want that good of a car with someone like me. Inside of six months, it would look like it had been ridden and put up wet. I'm not a collector. I'm a driver.

My point is you're seeing these low mileage Maranellos come out of the closet. They are destined for collectors. They are dust gathers. The real question is how many collectors are out there? I don't have a clue.

 

F40. I spent a session at willow springs raceway in one (with modified turbos even). I was I strutting the owner and he told me to take his kid out and show him what it could do. It was wicked fun. It drives like a race car. The Daytona drives like a nice cool old car.

 

You're skating on thin ice. I've ridden in a F40, but I have never driven one. (Hint, hint, out there in FerrariChat land). But I have driven a Daytona. Linear power in an old school car, priceless.

But I will defer to you.

 

lol, well we each have our own subjective likes. I am a racer, so I like race cars and race bred street cars. The Daytona I drove felt floaty and “old”. Motor was good, sounds were great. Experience was ok. We almost bought one instead of 550 actually. It was between those two.

The 550/575 does have real race history with prodrive.

Also I made a typo, I meant I was instructing the f40 owner. (I was chief instructor at a Ferrari/porsche/euro dealer school at willow).

 

I’m as pro-mod as they come but ugh, poor chrome wheels. What a waste.

 

Yea, it’s horrible. He should have spent the 750 and fixed them before listing!

 

You can’t properly “fix” a wheel once it’s been chromed. Any method to strip the chrome will intrinsically weaken the wheel. Simply substituting/replacing is the only real solution. I would know, I spent an inordinate amount of time trying once. Yes, you could always just repaint it/paint over it but you end up with a much heavier inferior overall wheel.
Leave chrome for the hot rods…

 

Did not know that as I have not has chrome wheels since I was 16. So it’s good timing that the stock set is on bat at the moment too! Whomever buys that red car should buy the wheels.

Chrome wheels are for nothing imho. They will all fail eventually, especially exposed to the elements.

anyone that likes the look of bright work (I don’t and have gone to great expense to remove anything chrome or polished from every car I have ever owned lol) should simply do the wheels in high polished with a clear coat. That is what you see on HRE and other high end wheels. People think it’s chrome when looking, but it’s not!

 

This isn’t BaT, but I’m pretty sure this is Nifty’s old car on eBay. Someone out there is going to get a well sorted 550 for cheap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116207116720?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=nPzXJsd-Tay&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=vqNel9W6RdK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS

 

Agreed. I found a rare wheel cheap but it was in chrome so I figured can just restore. Nope. Yes polished is much better and easier to maintain too.

Oof I would want to say tempting but lack of fun money makes me sad.

 

That is 100% Niftys car.
I’ve said it before….explain to me how that car is not one of the absolute top driver 550’s in North America. It’s only gotten better under the last 2 owners since Nifty.

High miles….who cares….sorted….yes

I can’t have two 550’s but if I could that would be the car.

For posterity and searchability $148k ask
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A floaty 365 GTB/4 needs new shocks and, probably, springs. Mine was anything but floaty but was only 8 years old when I had her.

 

One man's floaty may not be another's. =)

Again, I am a racer, I think 99% of every stock streetcar I have ever driven is floaty.

 

Do you still have all your original teeth or have they given up from the jolting? They put shocks and springs in them for a reason.

 

lol, shocks and springs are there to offer better grip, not more comfort!

 

Did not work too well for Max at Monaco. Suspension too stiff.

 

lol, true. But I am betting that the Daytona would be floaty to Max too!

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-ferrari-456m-gt-5/

Late M-GT back on listing

 

Interesting. I have been told 275s and 250s were floaty even for non-race car drivers. There were much lighter cars. A Daytona feels like it is on rails to me, but I'm too old to drive "floaty speeds."

By omission, I'm guess a F40 wasn't floaty?

 

A final year M shifter car w/Daytona seats.

So choice, even with the miles.