LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

This probably looks a lot better than what this will actually look like.

 

I had an F430 and a 458. My daily drive is an Audi with a T V6. It's a good car, but that V6 is **** compared to the NA V8 the 458 has.

 

Quite a cool idea to have tried this!

 

I can't agree with that. A V12 could have even better performance (I reckon that the V6 won't have more than 750 CV), but it 's Ferrari's philosophy to follow the F1 trends of the times. I also don't understand why you think that the cars you mentioned are more exotic.

 

Respectfully, I think that's a huge mistake, and even if you can't express it, I won't be surprised if you agree with me.
I'm looking forward to a 4 cylinder to follow the regulations...

 

The 296 GT3 and C are both around the 694hp at 2.9L (non hybrid) so if Ferrari put a 3.9L we now have over 900hp (more that what the V12 can do) add the hybrid and we are at around 1200 + hp. Look I want the V12 but fact is with the current board its not going to happen.

 

They are not 2.9 and 3.9. They are 3 and 4, (basic maths, you round up to the closest round number). I can't see your logic though. You can 't just increase the capacity and get the same specific power. If it were like that, a Ducati 1200 bike could make 1000 HP, if it were to be enlarged to 5000 cc. But that's not doable, reciprocating masses, frictional and thermal losses and all that. There is a reason that you need more cylinders as the capacity increases, as far as reciprocating engines are concerned.

 

The 3L V6TT is meant to be able to over 800hp but as its the first Gen and is heavily detuned so with an increase to 4L and less detuning it should be no issue to get those sort of numbers. look at the 5.0 Liter Koenigsegg twin turbo aluminum V8 even on pump gas its got like 1200hp plus. If the F250 is not 1200hp I will be shocked and Ferrari don't have a 800hp Hybrid like the Dark matter. so more has to come from the ICE the SF90 series has a 1000hp plus and the F250 isn't going to be lite so it needs the hp

 

Where does all this all malarkey come from?

What is its life expectancy?

Unlikely. It will probably be 700 ICE and 600 electric, as proportionally per 2026 F1 regs.

 

600 electric no way 300-400 maybe... Same as a Ferrari unless its a youtuber.... an insider when the V6 was being finished. My understand was the GT version of the V6TT was designed from the ground up not a side port of the F1 V6 which is sub par

 

You put too much faith in the so called "insiders" in here... Even in the unrestricted, track only, 499P Modificata and 296 Challege it "only" makes 700 CV.

Indeed the F163 engine is not related to the F1 engine (different bank angles, single turbo vs twin turbo. My point is that all the top Ferrari race engines are currently V6s. But wait a minute. You called the F1 engine "sub par"? It is the best engine in Formula 1!!!

 

Those car are limited by the rules and the C only need a small bump as an upgrade will be sold later (Business 101). Never said the insider was here. Most F1 teams want to go back to V8/V10 but with Bio fuel but Mercedes seems to want to stay Hybrid. I don't think the V6 was used because of F1 its the board and there silly Eco movement they have just on board far to much, EV and Hybrid won't last long. while the 296 GT3 and 499P have a V6 I don't think anyone knew how successful they would be out of the gate. I just think it was a sigh of the times move from the board. Best engine in F1 by what standard ?

 

No, they are not! Both of the cars I mentioned are unrestricted!

Not really. Ferrari up-voted the hybrid powertrains in 2014 and keep in mind that they had, and still have, the right of veto.

Most powerful and equally reliable as the rest. Helmut Marko has admitted so.

 

The V10 is the best engine F1 ever had.

 

Actually the V12 was the best engine ever!

 

Talk is cheap it hasn't displayed that

 

Whatever do you mean? The GPS traces show that Ferrari engined cars accelerate quicker in the 100-200 kph spectrum, which shows the power of the engine (below 100 it is all about traction and above 200 the drag comes into play). The fastest car down the straights this year is the Ferrari powered Haas. You are welcome.

 

yet where is the podiums to back that up ? Just a heap of numbers that don't translate

 

I thought you knew a few things about F1. Ferrari is 2nd in the WCC, but that is irrelevant, regarding its engine power. Red Bull is 1st, RB is 6th. They are powered by the same engine.

 

I am talking the last couple of years. this year is still the early stages so doesn't mean much at this point. The RB is not the same as the RedBull

 

Once again, that has nothing to do with the engine. Ferrari's F1 engine is the best on the grid!

 

You say all that and look what happened serious engine issue all weekend long and then DNF

 

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Defuser looks fake. Can not wait to see it real


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