Ferrari in Camera , the register

From what I can see it looks in very good condition.

About 5 or so years ago you'd very rarely see a book come on the market but now they appear much more regularly with prices definitely softening.

I think if you were in the market for one there has never been a better time to invest.

 

There are quite a few that are for sale, but at prices clearly out of the market, since they have been there for months and do not move. The ones really for sale (accepting the market price) are still not very common.

 

EUR 35 for shipping to the USA from Portugal is a complete bargain. The actual cost could be a few times that or more. Ferrari in Camera is a HEAVY book.

 

What do you think a fair price would be (without postage) for a very good condition blue linen standard version ?

 

C £ 1500

 

The current catawiki auction may give an indication - I'm tempted to take part, but there are already two bidders, so my interest may not be to push the price up...
The indicated estimate is 900-1100 euros; current bid is only 726 euros but there are 3 days left.
The estimate seems fair to me, since copies at 1700 - and more - euros do not move (at 1700 on ebay, it did not even get a direct offer at 1400, apparently), and the last sale on catawiki was 732 euros (although for a not perfect one).

 

When I bought my low numbered, mint copy with full outer packaging back around 3 or so years ago I paid around 2,000 Euros. that was for one of the best blue cloth examples around.

Granted, that was top dollar and 3 years ago but I would price a mint copy closer to 1,500 Euros now.

Many wouldn't want a copy like that, an 8/10 condition copy would suffice for most and thus would be a bit less.

 

Sold for $877 excluding fees and (cheap) shipment - I missed the deadline, otherwise I would probably have raised (slightly) the final price.

 

877€ plus 9% fees is around 1020$

 

Prices really have come down terribly! Almost exactly two years ago, I paid 1,800 euros for a copy, and at that time that appeared to be a fair price. The last three or four public auction results never passed 1,100 euros.

But fortunately: The quality of the book remains when its price has long been forgotten

 

I just acquired #663 a VG-E copy.
#816 to @rynoshark

 

Has anybody ever heard of unnumbered copies of Ferrari in camera, and if so, what would be a fair price ?

 

For these kind of books there's always a few copies for press reviews and for the publisher and author(s). They're usually referred to as 'HC' (Hors Commerce) or 'AP' (Artist's Proof), and they're not part of the numbered edition. Fair price would depend on condition, signature(s) and possible ornaments.

 

The general rule of thumb for Artist Proof editions (AP's) is they are usually worth the same or marginally less in value to a normal numbered print provided the condition is very good to mint.

I'm not talking specifically just for FIC copies but for AP's in general.

 

This weekend, no. 831 (blue edition) in very good condition wasn't sold at a starting price of 1,000 euros (which would be 1,190 euros incl. buyer's premium) at Marcel Seidel Ladenburg. So, the dramatic collapse of prices for this book seems to be manifested.

 

One copy not sold at a local auction house hardly equates a dramatic collapse in price.

 

I paid < $700 US at auction all-in for #663.

 

There has been a series of auctions where the book didn’t sell well. Maybe, there have been too many copies around.

And I wouldn't call Ladenburg a "local auction house". They have much grown in importance.

 

There’s max 1100 copies around, and Ladenburg is no Bonhams or Sotheby’s, so a local auction house.

 

The copy at Ladenburg is still for sale for a while as post auction (at the now fixed ending price). Apparently it's still over the current market price; however it seems there are very few transactions currently since there are very few sellers ready to sell at market price. Numerous copies have been available at higher prices for months/years but they do not move.

 

young people don´t read books anymore
older people die and the books are sold
have a look her in the thread, how old are people?
younger people use facebook, insta, twitter, whatsapp

I know a lot of people here
all of them are 50+

 

Most people haven’t read a book since the birth of Jesus. Still, every year in modern times more books are published. Unfortunately reading (books) has always been a kind of elitist occupation.

 

Respectfully disagree. IMO Ladenburg and Ni-Cola are superior to Bonhams and Sotheby's for automotive printed matter and automobilia. High commissions, packing and long distance shipping negatively impact sales results for collectible books.

 

There are "many" copies for sale currently, so a buyer ready to pay whatever price could very easily buy. A potential buyer looking at the situation sees that there are no such buyers, so he can wait for a lower price (knowing that eventually, he will be able to buy if he's bored to wait). It's not like a situation where the opportunity to buy only rarely presents, in which case a potential buyer could be afraid of missing the opportunity (and therefore would be more inclined to pay whatever price is asked).

 

And I thought that $995 for a fairly worn copy a few years ago was a great price......