LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Regulations did not call for it, but there are trade-offs within the rules depending on what mixture of engine and hybrid system they wanted to use. I'd say the reason they went to hypercar with the V6 was because it was already planned for road cars, not the other way round.

 

LaFerrari Production. I did not mean it as a factual statement.

 

Ok, so it is just a personal assumption....

 

Post #1136. Obviously a while ago and not sure about the original source.

 

If you think they made 599 SP3, 599 SF90 XX Spider and 599 Competizione Aperta I think that is probably a good assumption for the F250 coupe…so including the Aperta 800 or so?


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All the details are here !

We Dive Deep Into Maserati’s New Nettuno V-6 Engine (motortrend.com)

 

I know But I was only speaking in terms of the LaFerrari Not including the Apertas. But a 2nd vision will happened if the design allows it I am sure and in bigger numbers but limited of course.

 

They could run a V8 in WEC based on the rules

 

There is nothing particular tricky about the Nettuno, other than the pre-ignition chambers which Ferrari has had in its F1 engines for many years now. Other than that, the Nettuno is a typical 90 degree, twin turbo V6, which has its origins in the Alfa Romeo V6, which in turn was loosely based on the V8 Ferrari. Its power and delivery are inferior to that of the 120 degree Ferrari V6.

They could have chosen any engine configuration they so wished. For example BMW uses a twin turbo V8, Cadillac a N/A V8. The only limitation is the maximum allowed power. Since a V6 already covers that power requirement, any larger engine is unnecessary and even harmful, as that would mean a larger size, more weight, complexity and higher fuel consumption (always an important factor in endurance racing).

 

Cadillac is good example. They said who has best sounding car in the interview I saw in Youtube. I would rather have however loosely related engine with 2 wins in Le Mans 24 than best sounding v8 engine in next hypercar since it still is not V12.

Then again, we all wanted to see V12 in it, right? And the next best thing is this V6 with 2 wins. Thank god they won. Now I have less reason to complain about this engine. Let it sing over 12000 rpm with wonderful design.


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So with AM and Bugatti set to join the LMhs next year 2025.
I'm not sure how that is going to work Prototypes Hypers vs GT1 Hypers. The BOP is going to be a nightmare
Will Ferrari do a F250 GT1 Hyper racecar in 25/26

 

NA flat V8 with red line 10k would be perfect in LaFerrari replacment, next huracan is turbo but have max rpm like this.
Argument of winning a race is pointless, what if Ferrari would win in Formula E? Next Ferrari hyper car should be fully electric? or if Ferrari lose Le Mans to Toyota? that would make Camry faster?

 

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Ferrari is not in Formula E and is unlikely to join.
The Next Halo after this is 10 years away so the sky is the limit at this point.
As for Lamborghini and their Engines how did their V8 do at Le Mans ?
"Pointless you say" Than you don't understated Ferrari Clearly.

 

Can't wait to see the Valkyrie at Le Mans next year. For the fans, it's now in the WEC that it's happening !
F1 is for Netflix fans...

 

How is it going to be run in the Hyper class? Its Spec are totally different to the LMh Prototypes

 

it will lose badly

 

I think they come without hybridization...

 

F1 is just an uninteresting show today, the regulations, the circuits, the engines, the show off... total waste of time watching this...
I note that until the arrival of hybridization, I saw for 20 years the Monaco GP live...

 

wow, that would be nice old good days when in Le Mans we could see real road legal hypercars it should be mandatory, that in hypercars class for 24 Le Mans can attend only cars that are build in at least 25 road legal units

 

Do you believe,as a hypothesis, that a coming Adrian Newey at Ferrari could force them to change their point of view about NA V12 ou V10 ?

 

it won't change anything...

 

As part of the target audience for this new car, I have been asking for some time that they make the spiritual successor to the F40. Lightweight, maximum performance, barely road legal. For that design remit a turbo V6 makes much more sense than the N/A V12. I hope that's the direction they end up going!

 

Perhaps SP4?


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That would be interesting, wouldn't it. The 288 GTO engine came from the racing world, but the racing series never happened, yet it ended up being upgraded to power the street F40. At the time some criticism of the F40 was that it was too raw for the street, and too soft for the track- surely the 12 cylinder based Testarossa will be the historic icon of the era. (The Testarossa is another favorite, but the F40 is really the supercar icon). Then the F40 went on to find itself in racing. Now you would have a two times LeMans winning power plant, going into a hopefully raw, barely suitable for the road dream machine.

 

The Valkyrie LMh will be adapted to the Hypercar rules. Will be interesting to see how that goes, but racing against dedicated machines won 't be easy for them.

Why would they do that, since they have a dedicated WEC race car?

Its popularity says otherwise. The fact that one team reigned supreme in the last couple of years doesn 't change that. Before RBR, we had Mercedes dominating and 20 years ago it was Ferrari, before that it was Williams and it goes like this since the beginning of the F1 Championship (with Alfa dominating in 1950 and 1951). Nothing wrong with the cars either, they are quick and raceable, even though they don 't sound as good as they used to. Surely, they have outgrown Monaco circuit, but that 's Monacos problem; always a boring race! Some other tracks are also not that great, but the same applies to every racing series and we still have the legendary classics (like Monza, Spa, Silversone), as well as some nice new tracks (like Austin, China, Saudi Arabia).