If the black parts were actually body color would that change your thinking or is it the overall shape/design that throws you off. I know he said over my dead body but once you own the car….. I just wish they had an analog tach and some nice buttons/dials inside. I know it’s been said many times but the digital screens will not age well. Jump into a 250 gte, swb, etc, from the 60’s and tell me the interior isn’t beautiful and the gauges are a work of art….hop into a digital cockpit from the 80’s (name the brand but not Ferrari) and tell and tell me the same…it’s not going to happen. I get were merc is doing this in my eqs but I don’t really get why Ferrari is.
I think I like the shape generally. The black bits are by far the biggest issue for me. The renderings I've seen without them look vastly better to my eyes. I don't know if I'd love the car without them, but my feelings would be positive, neutral at worst. Personally, I'd be pretty worried about dropping $600k on a car that I'd want to send straight to the paint shop, particularly not knowing exactly how it would turn out. Will it be possible to get a good color match across different materials? Will the panel gaps at the front look weird without the black panel to hide them? Will the rear window shape still look odd after the flaps are painted? Hear, hear. Is that an invitation?
I agree, the screens are super worrisome, and the square headlights will not age well as either. The car wasn't designed with long term aging in mind, otherwise screens wouldn't have been used some substantially. That was shortsighted and is definitely form over function.
In the first picture appears the 12 C coupé. The second picture shows an imaginary 12 C coupé with the rear lights not of the LED strip type, without the rear delta wing and the rear flaps, with the exhaust outlets circular and the rims less futuristic from the 12 C spider . This imaginary 12 C coupé, unlike the real one, has a family feel with the 812 SF and F12 B. However, we know that the design of the rear side of the 12 C Coupé intentionally breaks with the past therefore continuity was exactly what Ferrari didn't want. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think it will age better the way it is with all the black bits. Theres tons of cars which looked too bold at release but after a couple years the previous gen looked dated and the new car was just better and normal. People will do some really nice specs and when seen in the flesh it will change minds. Lets not forget the driving reviews which will likely reveal generational improvements. For christ sakes we are getting a comp with a new chassis and gearbox for 1/3 of the price and 7 years free maintenance.
Time will tell. I'll take the other side of that bet. I agree that new designs can be jarring and opinions tend to improve with time. In my experience, however, strong negative reactions (like many of us have to the black bits) may soften, but don't reverse. I think there's a bias from many folks who like the design to assume that those of us who don't are just curmudgeons who have yet to be enlightened. Perhaps. I think the design is just polarizing. It works for some, not for others. Simple as that. That said, I hope you're right. I want the car to be a success.
Valid points and there is always bias including my own. I am a relatively new ferrari owner but the v12 speaks to me. This iteration even more so. To some extent i will be buying the car only for the powertrain but i also didnt have a negative reaction to the reveal photos. It still looks unmistakeably like a supercar and not a beefed up roma especially with the black bits My biggest gripe was the price and options went up 30-40% which is not trivial
Oddly enough, from those angles, I actually prefer the black bits… Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
The V12 speaks,I dare say, all of us on this thread- unfortunately it’s speaking softly. We’ll see if it still carries the big stick when the reviews come out. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
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The second from top picture shows exactly why Ferrari will push back hard on painting the rear flaps body color. Look how heavy the rear fender and B-pillar look. Given the small size and shape of rear hatch glass, the black graphic element seems to be crucial for breaking up the rear visual weight.
That rear diffuser looks HUGE on the back of the car. I wonder if it's just the angle of the photo, or if it's really that big sticking off the back.
A video of the 12 C inside Ferrari's factory. Snapinsta.app_video_An_537lAgs3iJ5qjy15hcu1StV7vKnN3oAZ7uf6dDRX599VIO2z0TvySXMRzhTpmB70n4ESombrh6cTpBsSh0Ro.mp4.92baa849e5f16991c921960e17285872.mp4
Comp is an LE. There is no comparison in value. The LE goes up and the mass production goes down. Hoping that driving reviews make the body design look better says something. Either you like the car or you don't.
First appearance of a 12 Cilindri in classic flat red (possibly Rosso Corsa), with standard silver wheels, black calipers and without shields. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Images taken from the following video:
I'm curious on this go around, as the coupe and spider launched together. In the past the coupe was purchased and there were some good specs but a lot of base specs to get into the spider allocation. With these both launching, and honestly quite a few more people leaning into the spider, I'm curious how specs are going to turn out. Paint is probably the most important "option" for me on the car. I can forgo carbon but paint selection is make or break for me.
I think exactly the opposite. The flat reds exude tradition, and the 12C lines are very rich, and a solid paint job leaves the emphasis on the lines themselves. Metallics and pearlescent colors, especially reds, explode too much, change tone too much in the sun, IMO (except Corsa met. and TRS). A simple configuration, flat red with silver wheels, it's so beautiful and timeless. I'll opt for Le Mans, Scuderia or 70 anni. But, of course, this is just my opinion.
