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  1. gh0st0

    gh0st0 F1 Rookie

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    Guy gets a capable car and thinks he can slings around hot takes, does he think he's Zach brown?
     
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  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You base your theory on a very narrow sample, I must say.
    You should perhaps broaden your observation by trying several wives before stereotyping? :)
     
  3. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That gets mentally and financially expensive. You become institutionalized after several wives.

    No thanks.
     
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  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You think so ? Ask Elon Musk ...
     
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  5. NunoRosso

    NunoRosso Formula Junior

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  6. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Not everyone is Elon Musk. I'm talking about personal experiences with other mens wives and ex-wives.
     
  7. ypsilon

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    Really disingenious from Stella, trying to ride the British anti-Max wave there. After Zack Brown already made a few nasty comments this season towards RB.

    Saw Norris doing a similar thing after the race, he was suddenly much more personal towards Max in his Skysport interview than the more neutral Viaplay interview.

    By the way, I think Max shoud've left a bit more room to Norris when they touched. Other than that Max did nothing wrong. Norris was clumsey in his overtaking today, overshooting, too rushed and far too eager to blame Max for his own mistakes.
     
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  8. lagunacc

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    Not only did he not leave room he closed it after Lando was already there.

    And Lando already passed him cleanly and he went off track to stay ahead.
    Under the current rules, he should have given the place back.

    He's had a much superior car for so long and he still acts like a sore loser.
    Hopefully Lando learns from this.
     
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  9. ypsilon

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    Forcing another driver off the track is not allowed. So it was far from a clean pass, it wasn't a pass since he left Verstappen nowhere to go.

    Remember Hamilton vs Verstappen first lap final race of the 2021 season......Your beloved Masi didn't give Ham a penalty, even though Hamilton did had more room then.
     
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  10. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Racing is a calculus of risk reward. Both max and lando got it wrong and russell benefited. Max did not "move" on lando. He drifted to a preferred line while lando refused to yield. Lando, the overtaking driver, is responsible for doing so cleanly. I'm not a max fan but put the contact blame on lando. He was in the best position to avoid contact and max still owned the right to be where he was on the track. The real problem with max was his immediate unsportsmanlike maneuver after contact with his damaged car. That's where he earned the meaningless 10 sec penalty. Maybe they both learned something for the next time. Max is fast with some game but he has not shown the cunning of a Hamilton or Shumacher. It will be a long time if ever that max has 7 WDC's. He will need more than just raw speed. It was a poor show for the fans. You really suck when Gasley and Ocon in the same race who have no respect for each other put on a better show of clean racing.
     
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  11. william

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    LOL So you generalise too ...
     
  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No. Where did I generalize. I'm talking from personal experiences.
     
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  13. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
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    This yes. Everyone else here saw Max crank the wheel over in anger,not the case
     
  14. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Sorry, I didn't understand what you wanted to say. :)
     
  15. Sig. Roma

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    I saw Max of old.


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  16. william

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    Norris has been around Verstappen long enough to know what to expect from him.
    As for Max, when he is attacked, he can defend very aggressively without thinking.
    A racing incident, totally avoidable, IMO. Too much aggressive driving on both sides.
    It makes headlines, and fuel conversations but didn't serve the 2 actors.
     
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  17. absostone

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    si te piace cosi, va bene
     
  18. moretti

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    I saw the same, he's an arrogant **** but livens up my night

    No mention of Oscar who probably could have won with a couple more laps
     
  19. ypsilon

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    Peter Windsor says Max not to blame:

     
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  20. lagunacc

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    You're talking about MCL riding the Uk media feelings, yet you're dutch covering up for a sore loser.

    Pass was 100% valid and under current rules Max should have given the place back.
    Not Lando's problem if Max left the space open. Lando was already there. Max had to back out.

    Since the stewards are not checking his BS, other drivers will. Hopefully Lando learned what he needs to do.
     
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  21. HotShoe

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    :eek:

    It’s cheaper to rent ;)
     
  22. lagunacc

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    His philosophy of what racing is supposed to be vs reality. Current rules is what counts.

    And then he contradicts himself - the guy on the inside wins. Then Max had to give the place back.
    Problem with current micro managing rules. Stewards fail.

    youtu.be/b0yb1zH2m7c?t=313
     
  23. ypsilon

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    Here, let me help you:

    FIA International Code, Appendix L, Hoofdstuk IV, Article 2b

    b) Overtaking, according to the circumstances, may be carried out on either the right or the left.
    A driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.
    More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted.
    Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off-line, should leave at least one car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach to the corner.
    However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited. Any driver who appears guilty of any of the above offences will be reported to the Stewards
     
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  24. lagunacc

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    Help yourself and read the code about who has to back off under those circumstances.

    Max went off and gained an advantage.

    And Max moved under braking over and over. Sore loser.
     
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