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  1. 375+

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    There wasn't all of this inconsistency and indecision when Charlie Whiting was around.? This is the F1 version of Who's On First.
     
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  2. USMCS6

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    It is really sad.. But I think Binotto is still the root, or a big part of it. Hopefully some of the new talent coming in will help. It really is sad to see the seasons start out well only to fade away. Forza Ferrari
     
  3. USMCS6

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    Something more HAD to be wrong with his car. It was a dog all weekend, but WAY worse after the incident.
     
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  4. gh0st0

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    I dont remember these problems when Charles was racing Max...
     
  5. lagunacc

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    Gotta love semantics. :)

    Punching someone is drifting your fist into the preferred trajectory while his chin refuses to yield.
    He's in the best position to avoid contact so it's his fault.
     
  6. steved033

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    *cough HAM 10 seconds at silverstone. #neverforget
     
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  7. steved033

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    yeah. Make sure the RB doesn’t make it back to the pits.
     
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  8. TheMayor

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    If I'm Zak Brown, I'm pissed at Lando. I don't care whose "fault" it was -- it shouldn't have happened. Max is going to be Max. Unless Lando had a clear shot there was no reason to take the risk at that time. It wasn't like it was the last lap of the race.

    McLaren lost a ton of $$$ today for no good reason. Lando cannot keep his cool.
     
  9. lagunacc

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    Clearly moved over.

    youtu.be/b0yb1zH2m7c?t=395
     
  10. TheMayor

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    Its his corner. He was in front. Lando tried to pass on the outside. Did Max defend it? Sure. But what's he supposed to do? Just pull over and park the car until Lando goes by?
     
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  11. TheMayor

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    And?
     
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  12. lagunacc

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    Has to leave a car's width.

    If everyone did what maxi pad does there'd be no passing, just accidents.
     
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  13. TheMayor

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    So he gets out his measuring tape? Lando was the aggressor. Lando didn't have to put both of themselves in that no win position.

    I'm no Max fan but its Lando who caused this to happen. Dumb place to try to pass.

    I can tell you one thing for sure. If Alonso tried this and it ended up the same way, Alonso wouldn't be WHINING about Max. He'd say that's the risks you take in racing and move on.

    That's the difference between a racer and a kid (or should I say the darling of the British Press).
     
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  14. jgonzalesm6

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    You think the Max-Lando incident doesn't happen with Type-A F1 drivers in F1's history? Of course it does. It's called hard racing between the two drivers. This incident is nothing new.
     
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  15. ktu

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    Max was aggressive breakdancing in the braking zone. Lando had to be aggressive once he found out they were not gonna call out Max on his maneuvers. If it was Magnussen doing those maneuvers he would have got penalized.
     
  16. SoCal to az

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    Yeah- just settle for 2nd. Why even ever bother to pass anyone right. 2nd place is awesome.
     
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    I know Max's hard @$$ defensive maneuvers, especially in the corners. I would have passed Max in the DRS zones. There were 7 laps left in the race to do this.
     
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  18. jgonzalesm6

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    No, that's not what he is saying. You pick your battles and picking one with Max going into a corner is not the right one. Max is going to defend very hard. You pass Max in the DRS zones provided you have the faster car. There were 7 laps left in the race so ALOT of time for the overtake to make it stick in the DRS zone..
     
  19. ktu

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    I think Lando wanted to get by as quickly as possible just in case he got a 5 sec penalty, he could build a gap. He surely had the pace. Lando did nothing wrong imo.
     
  20. ktu

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    You can still pass a guy defending very hard. Not so much a guy who keeps moving in the breaking zones.
     
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  21. jgonzalesm6

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    There was no way Lando was going to build a gap of 5sec ahead of Max with 7 laps left in the race knowing he violated track limits and a 5sec. track limit penalty was looming.
     
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    None of this happens if Max is instructed to give back the position when Lando passes him to take 1st. Max goes way off track to hold position. I don't belive Max catches Lando.
     
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  23. jgonzalesm6

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    That's racing with 2 Type-A personalities, especially in the corners. You must be patient and pass in the DRS zones to make it stick against a hard defensive driver. ALOT of time left in the race with these two(Max and Lando).
     
  24. ktu

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    No one knows, you don't coach a driver to not try.
     
  25. jgonzalesm6

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    Were you guys around when:

    1) Prost/Senna had their battles?
    2) Michael Schumacher and Hill to name others?

    3) Vettel/Webber multi-21 and the Turkey incident between the two.

    And many other F1 drivers whom did hard racing to their opponent's.
     
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