FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS AUSTRIAN GRAND PRIX 2024 ....Race.... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

This is the mindset that DRS has wrought. Problem is there are plenty of examples where even DRS will not get the desired result and old-fashioned race car driving is required. Sometimes (often?) making a pass is just as much making the other driver make a mistake as it is pulling off a great move to get by. A lunge is a common tactic to make that happen. Also, who's to say Max would have acted any different as the end of the race rapidly approached, or that an opportunity would present itself by waiting longer. Too little too late is common.

 

OK - I will admit I don't get it. Where was Max supposed to go? He was always going to go to the racing line. the racing line is the dark black strip on the left side.

When he brakes he brakes in a straight line. The straight line is on an angle, but so what, he's ahead.

So, specifically what is he supposed to do?

Honest question.

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In theory, when a driver changes his line to cover the interior, he must leave enough space in the outside for the other car. The rule of not changing direction under breaking is not related to this situation.

The question is if Norris could/should have avoided the contact by driving over the kerb. In my opinión Norris was in his line and it was Verstappen obligation to avoid the contact, not the other way around, but I get that it's open to debate. Maybe Norris was in his right to not budge but it was not the smartest thing to do.

 

That's because Lando hasn't yet heard about @ypsilon's "skewed straight lines"
Wait until that feature shows up in your GPS app.

After nearly 10 years in F1, Max still can't defend without moving under braking.

 

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Im still impressed how that tire came off the rim and then back on down that straight.. impressive

 

Everything you said is correct. I think Lando should have got the penalty not max. Lando had room and was the overtaking driver with the best view. The overtaking driver is responsible for doing so cleanly. Perhaps max got the penalty not for contact but being an a- hole just after contact. Martin describes it. https://www.planetf1.com/news/martin-brundle-max-verstappen-assessment-alarming-lando-norris-clash

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It's an issue about skill and double standards:

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Right! perfectly legal left room on outside the other car used to avoid contact. This is what lando could have done but chose contact instead. So who is responsible for the contact? I think the stewarts got it wrong.

 

Not in 2024.

And Brundle does not agree with your assessment in any way shape or form. Didn't during the race, nor after.

 

When one's skill level requires an F1 rule rewrite, it's clear that skill is deemed cheating.
Hasn't learned in 10 years.

 

no I’m agreeing with his which basically is max was being an a hole.

 

2024 F1 analysis. https://streamable.com/r3ago7

Posted by someone else earlier in the thread as well.
Not to change your mind or anything.

 

Ok, but Brundle thought Max caused the accident. The "******" move was just a continuation and made his impetus clear.
Brundle is very objective.

 

Anthony calls car’s width inside white line but track limit is where right side of car passes over white line. Therefore max gave lando easy one car width to track limit. That’s how we interpret it in amateur club racing too. And don’t forget lando is dive bombing to get up along side to force his right to car’s width which is generally frowned upon. On lap 59 or 55 when lando blew the turn had to give back position that was because of a dive bomb he could not hold on to. Lando was desperate and not using racecraft.

Turn 1 at Watkins glen is a good example of why the rule is one car width track limit not one car width white line. At the glen T1 there is big useable runoff that is within track limits but then disappears at the exit. If another car is side by side at the exit we can’t just hold our line because I’m inside the white line and run the guy into the grass. I have to move a car’s width inside the white line so the other car can de facto re enter the track from the legal runoff area. I do not know what the actual F1 rule reads but I would be surprised if it went counter to convention.

it is a moot point. We don’t get to decide. We just get to talk about it.

 

Agree 100%

 

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Felix Rosenqvist calls out the british media bias

 

As usual

 

Max is an entitled ass- he's so used to driving in clean air sipping espresso while the actual RACING is happening behind him that when someone actually challenges him he doesn't know what to do and acts like a ****ing brat- **** him-

 

2024 F1 AUSTRIAN GP race analysis by Peter Windsor (youtube.com)

Windsor has his say

 

Windsor is possibly the only non-biased English broadcaster

EJ is Irish so doesn't count

 

+1 enough said

 

No, because you could have anything on the side of the track which could compromise the other driver.

It's also a logical dead end to blame the guy that gets hit that he didn't do a better job avoiding a collision.
Max moved into Lando, not the other way around. Max acting surprised that there was a collision,
is just more gaslighting, like him whining about getting "dive bombed".