430 Help with last few issues after manual conversion

Congrats Joe!

Wish I could help but you're out of my league.Hopefully , you'll get it sorted soon

 

Joe, when you go with the Cambio Manuale (Dr S) complete kit, with ECU and cluster programming etc are included and you get a complete package, instrument cluster and everything else which needs to be done is done and you are guaranteed to have no error lights. And you are guaranteed that the conversion will not cause a failure of California smog, or you get a $2000 cash back. Of course Cambio Manuale kit will not fix any other problems in the car which could be present prior to the conversion and which are not related to the conversion (ABS etc).

In your case you have selected Cambio Manuale without any programming and without any electronics work, which is fine. But I'm still happy to help if I can. So the first question is - which of those problems/errors were present prior to the conversion and which are new? The cluster not configured to manual typically only shows F1/gearbox errors. There are also possibilities that an installer breaks or pinches/grounds some wire by accident (as shown in one of YouTube videos actually) causing problems, worth double checking.

But the next steps should be:
- disconnect the battery by removing the ground terminal (switch in the trunk does not disconnect all the circuits)
- reconnect the battery after several minutes
- clear all the errors using a scanner and see what comes back
- using Leonardo (or my tool as mentioned off line, I can provide it after the fact even to those who did not order full programming with the kit) configure the cluster to manual
- disconnect the battery again (this time it is enough by the key in the trunk)
- reconnect the battery

If all errors are gone, you are done. Otherwise the remaining errors are not related to the conversion and should be debugged separately (unless there is some engine ECU programming problem, but I don't expect it in your case).

 

And congrats on having the kit installed

 

Joe, and make sure the battery is fully charged (12.6V), as low voltage could trigger errors as well. If the car drives ok it may be fine to drive it for 20 miles carefully and in perfect weather. But has the mechanic working on your car checked it out and commented on the ABS etc other errors? Are the CAN busses healthy? If a CAN bus got messed up in the process (again, like a pinched wire) it would explain why some communication between the units is intermittent or not at all.

I would think if you leave a car in the shop with ABS working and ABS is not working after the work is done, perhaps the shop should fix it first ?

 

Until you get your cluster programmed, I would not try to troubleshoot anything; it really lights up like a tree. Everything is in error state.
Do that first, and then we'll troubleshoot together, I have done this. You obviously did not get the DrS cluster bypass solution, which I really would have recommended. It is a good way to drive the car and test BEFORE investing more in Trev's software and more money in cluster programming, etc. Or your installer did not know how to do it.
Feel free to ping me offline and we can chat/call.

 

Hi Joe,

Congratulations!!!! Great job (and thanks to Mario Andretti too).

Have you power cycled the car after Leonardo configuration? The cluster has a memory of the F1 which does not go away after the reconfiguration to manual unless you power cycle the car (please see the steps in one of my posts above). Power cycle should remove the gearbox light.

 

Im glad you got it working! now just enjoy!

 

I believe you need to adjust the cables....and/or clutch.

1-2 should only be hard when cold. When it warms up, should be like butter. I bet on cables not properly adjusted; and/or clutch not properly adjusted.

 

The fluid doesn't change because of the swap. To adjust the cables, I find that doing the larger adjustments are best from the back, and the fine adjustments are better from inside the cabin. It will shift differently when it's warm. I just drive around with the center console off on some back roads and adjust it as it needs it while keeping track of the adjustments.

I should mention that is what worked best for me and is not what the service manual recommends.

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You have to follow the manual from Dr.S to the letter for adjusting the cables. I did and it paid out. I also did another adjustment after about 500 miles out, as actuator and cables will settle and play in the cable will be obvious on one side more than on the other; so the left right movement of the shifter could be slightly off, and / or the back-forward .

The clutch adjustment is crucial as well. I believe you have access to that manual, but if you don't , PM me and I can help (with the process as well).
As said above, same fluid is used no matter what shifts gears. Some fluids might be more manual friendly than others, but its' a wash in my opinion. I think they make a small difference when cold, but not when the gearbox oil is hot.

I used to swear by Redline gearbox oil all my life, and after changing to that; all of sudden my wife complains about hard shifting in winter on the M3. Switched back to OEM oil, she goes " much better now"... go figure. And I agree, it WAS better.

 

I am pretty happy with Motul Gear 300 75w-90. Second is slightly harder to engage first 2 changes in the morning on a colder day, but after that, no issues.
I might go back to Ravenol VSG just for kicks to see how it behaves with manual gearbox now; I had it before on F1 and I felt like it was changing very smooth but it could be placebo effect on F1. It smacks into gear regardless...

 

@GogglesPisano So how's the car and how are you liking the manual now?

 

Yes, Ravenol VSG!

 

Motul gear 300 is also very smooth once it warms up. Cold fluid, might be cranky first 2, 3 shifts into second requiring more effort. After that, butter smooth. I will try Ravenol also next change; I had it on F1 only.