I think most are in the same boat, it’s why dealers don’t want to trade them. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
The typical lifespan of a PHEV battery is around 10 years/150k miles (the battery warranty is typically 8 or 10 years, 100k or 150k miles). The fact that it won't run when the battery fails (which I didn't know (thanks for info), but looks like that is often the case based upon a quick search), isn't any different than a major ICE repair that will be required over 10 years/150k miles. Also, you will probably know well in advance when the PHEV battery is getting weak, so it's unlikely to be a situation where you are stranded. While the large batteries in full EV's are very expensive, the much smaller batteries in PHEV's are often not that expensive. They might be more expensive in niche cases for very low production vehicles, but here are the prices and options for real-world Prius battery replacements (note that that the batteries can often be repaired by replacing the faulty cell) -- https://exclusivelyhybrid.com/toyota-prius-battery-replacement/ .
If you read my posts, you'd already know the answer. Why would you care????? Why do you ask that of everyone? I know it's a setup question for some kind of hypocrite comment about being green or something else senseless, not really interested in dropping to that level of discussion.
As I've said, if Tesla didn't have golf cart dashes and golf cart front ends, I'd already own one or it would be my next car. As I've also said, not sure non-Tesla EV's are ready for prime time, so I'm not sure I'll do that either (though I will evaluate EV's when I'm ready to change out my DD). So, no, I don't own one, but have talked at length to tons of people, over many years who own them, which you will find is an infinitely more accurate data source than EV articles (many of which are laughably wrong). Honestly, it's dealer service prices on the Porsche Macan that are huge driver of wanting an EV (for a DD, not for a fun car). Dealer service was never bad up until about four or five years ago, but with the Macan, it's been insane. The air filter replacement line item on the 40k quote alone was $625 (it's one $40 air filter and literally 5 minutes (tops) labor). The Tesla is just insane how easy (no service, no gas station tips) and inexpensive (fuel costs, no maintenance) it is to operate. If you can't charge at home, don't get an EV. If you take very long trips very frequently, then an EV is not a good idea. If you like to keep cars for 15 years from new, or buy 10-year-old cars, EV isn't a good idea (until technology advances to make replacement batteries more affordable). Otherwise, EV's are great for DD's. You'd be hard-pressed to find an actual EV owner you know who will tell you different.
Understand , and for others they don't work ,I do about twice a year , trips which can be anything from 4,000kms to 10,000kms runs , over a 5 to 10 day period , clearly an EV would not work for me in that sistuation ,however if and when I buy an apartment in St.Kilda road Melbourne ,I'd consider an EV providing the apartment block has easy to use recharging stations .
My daily driver does about 160km/day and on average 40k km per year. I try to get 10 years out of them and they are basically worth nothing at the end. I'm leaning towards a long range Tesla 3 for the next one as long as I feel confident about getting 10 years out of it
