i mean 2023 he finished 3rd in the championship so he wasnt that bad.. Ferrari strategy has been poor at best, they dont feel like a top tier team at the moment
You perfectly know this sport is sometimes surprising.. Of course first step is a cohesive and really competitive Scuderia. The most difficult task without a doubt!
I am convinced that winning a championship wasn't the main goal in Ferrari signing Hamilton. None of the parties is in the best shape to clinch a title, and time is running out. It's a business deal attracting lots of publicity, and sending the tifosi frantic with hope.
I really believe you still don’t understand how champions like Hamilton are made of. For the better and the worst ( Schumi 2010 for instance). I am sure he’s certain he will have a fair chance to be world champion again with Ferrari.
Even if winning a championship is the main goal, they still don't win. Might as well see what Sir Lewis Hamilton can bring.
Exactly. If George wanted to win, it was his only choice. And to "Hot Shoe": Nowhere did I say Hamilton "deserved" the win. I said he led the most laps. He did I said he was the class of the field. He was.
Just out of curiosity... For all the Hamilton haters, is your standard that unless Hamilton wins the WDC in 2025, that the move to Ferrari was a bust?
Hamilton's contract is for 3 years, I guess. We will see at the end if it was worth it from a racing point of view, if not it will prove it was only hype.
The Hamilton move to Ferrari is entirely for marketing and branding purposes. Have you seen the ads for Ferrari merchandise lately? They are targeting a specific group. Hamilton winning is immaterial. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Just so I'm clear... You guys are of the opinion that Ferrari doesn't care about winning the WDC/WCC? And Lewis Hamilton doesn't either? That's quite a theory...
Hamilton wants to win. It's not the first priority for Ferrari. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I know.....trust me....I know this. It is considered sacrilegious Oh, they care about winning the WDC and the WCC, they're just not: 1) Motivated enough 2) lack consistency in their F1 organizational culture. 3) In season development throughout the WHOLE season is lackluster. 4) Lack to understand correlation issues in the wind tunnel and on track real-time issues. 5) Cannot get THE BEST people: a) aerodynamacist b) pit strategist c) Team Principle 6) Pit calls behind the wall are......well.....something that needs ALOT of work. I think that's it........for the moment.
Yes. No matter if it's Hamilton, LeClerc, Sainz, Schumacher or Senna, the ultimate and only goal that matters is the WDC. As it should be in any sport, you play to win it all. If not what's the point?
That's a very idealistic and simplistic view of the sport. Every season, 75% of the grid must know they have absolutely no chance of winning. If they don't, they are kidding themselves. By the time they reach F1, many have evaluated their chances, their talent, the team they are driving for, etc... Being a racing driver is a job, and you get better paid if you satisfy your team. Williams, Alpine or Sauber don't expect their drivers to win, just to do their best. Do you think Magnussen, Zhou, Gasly, Bottas or Albon still dream of being WDC one day ? No, but if they drive well enough, their teams will find them reliable enough to keep them. That's the bottom line.
That is all true of course but the bottom line is everyone is there/wants to win. Even those that know they don’t have a shot still would give their left arm to win the WDC. But that wasn’t the original question above. When you pay top dollar for a talent like Hamilton how can you not expect a WDC? A top tier team with top tier talent should expect nothing less.
You should ask Toto Wolff that question. He has been paying Hamilton over the odds during the last 3 years and didn't get much in return. Now John Elkann believes he can do better by offering more. We will see if recruiting Hamilton at the end of his career was a smart move.
That depends on what you think "a smart move" is. Elkann picked and paid Hamilton $400 million....which is $100 million per year plus money going into Mission44. Now, this move by Elkann is specifically aimed at ALL of Hamiltons followers(which is ALOT) to buy Hamilton-Ferrari merchandise. Elkann will more than likely get his money back and then some. That's a smart move from a monetary or business value. So again, this isn't about winning the WDC title. It's all about selling merchandise.
Now you move the goalpost. I am talking about racing results, you talk about cash register. That kind of talk don't interest me; I watch F1 for the racing, and I have no interest in merchandise. Hamilton could sell trillions of T-shirts, I don't care; what he does on the track is all I am interested in.
No doubt the question at hand!!! Love him or hate him, Toto is a brilliant guy and runs a near perfect organization IMO. As much as it pains me to say, Ferrari is outmatched by him. Wish I could be a fly on the wall when Lewis gets to the Scuderia.
