Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

If it was a one off, I'd agree, but he's done it multiple times this season.

 

Yep, definitely driver error under adverse weather conditions on a part of the track that goes from negative g's(Eau Rouge) to positive g's(Radillion) in a fraction of a second. Throws the car aero balance into what it was designed for on a 2 dimensional plane and not a 3 dimensional plane with regards to the Z-axis.

Yes, other drivers "lost it" too during FP3 but managed to get their car back on the track and in the pits.

That being said, Lanve is more accident prone than most as his history in F1 has proven that.

 

Uh, big words.
Care to back that statement up with some statistics? You know, real data other than just "remembering stuff"?

 

So has Charles Leclerc

 

I've posted crash dollars that each driver has accumulated for the season on other threads and Lance Stroll is within the top 5.....each year.

 

Ah, we're paddling back. Nice.

Your original statement included the word "most". I read that as most drivers in F1 history. So now it's only the drivers of his years.
Within the top 5 means there are four other drivers. Granted that beats the other 15 or so drivers but isn't really a whole lot of a measure to go by with.

A proper analysis would include number of starts/laps and number of accidents actually caused by the driver and then compared against the entire F1 history or at least the last couple of decades as driving aids etc changed.

As my Statistics professor said: I only believe the statistics I falsified myself.

 

Those top 5 changes per year in Strolls time in F1. Stroll has been consistently on those top 5 when compared to his "geriatric" teammate at Strolls time on the same team.

As was stated earlier by another FChatter, that comparing Stroll to his more skillful teammate with regards to getting points for the team is really a non-issue since Stroll gives you mid-field performance.

So going forward, it can also be said that Strolls more skillful teammate also has a lower crash-per-dollar when compared to Stroll at the time his team-mate has been with the team.

But none of this really matters now does it? Since its daddy's money that covers his son's errors as opposed to any other F1 driver currently on the grid whom would have lost his seat due to "under-performing" when compared to his team-mate and a higher crash-per-dollar when compared to his team-mate and the field.

 

You are wasting your time.

 

I know. Just responding to tifosi12.

 

No it doesn't matter. F1 is a business first and foremost and run by $.

Stroll Sr. choses to spend his bucks on his son. More power to both of them.

 

Only 24 more days till we can all say GO LANCE!!

 

Yeah, but Charles has a couple of poles and a win. Stroll has bumpkis. It'd be one thing if he was pushing hard and beating, well anyone relevant, but he's got nothing to show for it.

 

So ?

 

Apparently the rules are different when you are a front runner. It is ok that Lando's Dad bought his spot at McLaren, It is ok that Max can trash talk the team all he wants, and apparently it is ok that Charles chucks off more than his fair share of race cars because from time to time he wins a race.

 

All 3 examples you gave have nothing to do with rules. Opinions and what is considered okay perhaps. Having said that, I do agree with you, be it rules or opinions. If Lance Stroll was winning races and championships, you wouldn't hear anyone saying he doesn't deserve to be in F1 and the fact his dad bought an entire team for him would be considered a great investment. It also seems that if you are winning races and earning money for F1/Liberty, then rules sometimes get a bit lax from time to time.

 

My mistake in using the word 'rules' I forgot for a moment how strict regulations are in F1 Agreed that opinions can vary a lot depending on circumstances and are not binary.

 

Done what? been the fastest driver despite no having the fastest car?

 

Is that true ?

I had no idea

 

Found this - https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-lando-norris-reveals-he-did-not-let-his-250000000-worth-father-ease-his-way-into-formula-1/

Hoping to become a professional F1 driver, Lando Norris had the gods of luck on his side as he was born into an affluent family. With his father’s net worth being around $250,000,000, money was never an issue for the Briton. He has often been called a ‘pay driver’ with rumors suggesting Norris’ father paid money to McLaren so he could drive for them. However, in an exclusive interview with Race Fans (further covered by F1 Maximaal), Lando Norris reveals he had a deal with his father that barred him from paying for a ticket to drive in F1.

Norris realizes luck has favored him more than many other drivers in F1 but claims it was his hard work that helped him get through the door. After winning the British Young Driver Award, Norris earned a role on the simulator for McLaren before earning his first paycheck.

Lando Norris did not let his father pay for his entry to F1

 

Lando Norris joined McLaren at a time when the company was in a bad financial state. Both Latifi and Norris invested into McLaren and Lando has recently been spinning the story that he made it in on merit and that money played no part in the decision. This 'news' now dominates simple Google searches but any decent research will show that the reality is very different:

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-once-a-pay-driver-lando-norris-propelled-mclaren-to-repay-his-fathers-44000000-by-securing-23-year-olds-services-under-the-gaze-of-rivals/

 

So Lando is lying lol. Ok.........lets give him a ring!

 

Dad gives McLaren $44,000,000 (total) up to 2021. I had no idea the Norris family had that kind of money. Like you said, they are trying to paint the picture that he was some middle class nice guy. His Dad is worth over $200 million.

In 2022, Lando signed a 4 year contract supposedly worth $100m.

 

Guess we need an "is Lando overrated thread" now. The summer recess is too long.

 

No we don't. Lando isn't overrated for having bought his way in.

But we could do with less driver/Stroll bashing for buying his seat in F1. He is clearly not the only one, nor was he ever. Paydrivers existed since the inception of the sport. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Absolutely, even the great Niki Lauda bought his 2 first seats in F1 at March, and then BRM.
His first wages from Ferrari helped him settle with Lou Stanley (BRM boss) the money he still owed him.