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  1. milrad

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    I would and I have. I bought a 2007 that was an EAG conversion and I'd happily do it again.
     
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  3. BlacktopRacing

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    You will never be able to shift a manual transmission as fast as a properly-functioning F1 system, at least at full throttle. Remember, the harder you drive, the faster it shifts.
     
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  4. mwstewart

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    I can get pretty close. I've owned a factory manual and both F1 types for comparison.
     
  5. imahorse

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    If I wanted a balls to the wall, uncompromised fast car, I would not be buying a 25 year old Ferrari. There are way better performing cars for the money.

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  6. swc5150

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    The only thing that sort of makes me nervous on a swap is not being able to verify mileage. The yellow 430 on BAT yesterday prompted me to post the question, even though I assumed I knew the answer. It just seemed a little sketch that a 6k mile car had the same bolster wear as my 40k mile car? The EAG guy confirmed that they couldn't verify mileage once the F1 TCU is gone. But documentation can cure that worry too.
     
  7. BlacktopRacing

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    Well, that's a full-on tangent topic... best to start a new thread
     
  8. BlacktopRacing

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    Sorry, but "pretty close" isn't close at all. There's a reason the automated clutch systems were ever invented in the first place. Recall when they came out in Formula1, they dominated the lap times. That's why everyone adopted them. I guess if you're not going for lap times, and just want the nostalgic experience of rowing your own gears, then it doesn't matter. By the way, the gate itself is contrary to fast shifting as well, since non-gated manuals can be slid into gear faster.
     
  9. GogglesPisano

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    Could very well have been a larger owner. They go through bolsters like nobody's business. Or someone that just squashed it every time they got in. Very easy to put wear with bolsters this large and someone that doesn't pay attention. You really get a feel of mileage on other wear points like the wheel or buttons (if they didn't fall apart from being sticky).
     
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  10. imahorse

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    To be fair, swapping a tcu is a lot easier than rolling back the odometer. I wouldn't be too worried about that.

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  11. imahorse

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    My point was that you arguing which shifts faster is splitting hairs. The milliseconds that you may gain on an F1 don't really matter because it is, by current standards, a poor performing race car for the money.

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  13. Mercedes_Benz

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    Only time I would convert an F1 to manual is when @flash32 stops helping all of us!:D
     
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  14. swc5150

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    I hear you guys, but after falling victim to a clocked BMW and Ferrari being pretty much the world leader in clocked cars, not having the original TCU would prompt me to want mileage in/out service records. Of course I'd buy @imahorse 's car without worry. The ol' buy the seller rule:) But again, I wouldn't worry about the EAG conversion itself at all.
     
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  15. GogglesPisano

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    Had access to a Leonardo recently. It's actually quite easy. All you have to do is check a box that says you pinky swear you're installing a new cluster and just updating it to match the cars mileage.
     
  16. GogglesPisano

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    That's a racecar feature. It angles it toward the driver for faster shifts. Like rally driver's angling the steering wheel to see the gauges better :D
     
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  17. imahorse

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    I stand corrected then. I didn't see that option when I reconfigured my cluster with an SDX although I wasn't looking very hard.

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  18. swc5150

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    Yeah it’s shockingly easy to clock a Ferrari. And there’s a large financial benefit for unscrupulous sellers to do so.
     
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    As most are aware here, I would not buy an EAG conversion. I would, and did, convert cars w/ OEM parts at Exoticars and could not be happier.
     
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    Interesting thread!
     
  21. veilstylez

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    Hard Pass on the aftermarket style EAG conversion, Do a Cambio(Dr S) conversion..its more OEM like.
     
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  22. Zed82

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    What’s more OEM like? They are all aftermarket.
     
  23. imahorse

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    EAG is the least OEM based of the 3 and a lot of the components are not interchangeable with OEM like on the other 2.

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  24. Zed82

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    What parts exactly and what difference does it make? Reason I’m asking because I had my EAG conversion for almost four years soon without any issues and with OEM feel. Seems like many of the issues are caused by inexperienced installers.
     
  25. imahorse

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    #50 imahorse, Aug 3, 2024
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    We went back and forth numerous times on this crap. I'm not spending hours making a list for you. If you care so much and want to defend EAG to the level you do, how about doing some of your own research. Have you actually looked at any of the parts or are you just saying how since you didn't have a bad experience everything else is an inferior product? Paying more doesn't always give you more.

    Almost none of the shifter housing is interchangeable with OEM although I'm not sure if the newest design corrected this. Same with the gear selector and linkage on the transaxle. Those 2 things are pretty much all of the gear selection side of a conversion! The clutch side is a lot more forgiving.

    I'd also love to hear about these many issues because a lot of them I've heard are from EAG gear selectors on the transaxle which magically go away when going to Dr. S or Modena Lucerna.

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