The problem isn't that Stroll bought his way in, it's that he's still in despite clearly not having the talent to warrant it. Lando has shown he has the talent and skill to be be driving at the front in F1, and he did so pretty much right away. Other drivers that don't have the talent after buying their way in are out after 2-3 seasons max, and at bottom feeder teams. For a supposed 'front running' team to be dragging along a no talent that is 1-7 against his teammates is ridiculous. And the fact that he clearly thinks he deserves to be there is why everyone hates him, not because he paid his way in initially.
I don't hate Lance Stroll ! He is an average driver, and I think he has his place in F1. What makes you think that "everyone hates him" ? A bit extreme, no ?
Mr. 10% bought the Silverstone test for Schumacher and Nigel Mansell mortgaged his house to buy his first seat. But way before that there were privateers (in a sense not unlike Stroll Sr.) who bought a car like the F1 Ferrari Sharknose and run it at a GP outside of the Scuderia Ferrari.
If talent and results were the measuring stick, you could toss half the grid out of F1. AM is far from being a front running team. Midfield at best.
Graham Whitehead, Louis Rosier, Stirling Moss, Karel Godin de Beaufort, Jo Bonnier, Maurice Trintignant, Guy Ligier, and many others raced as privateers. They were often at the back of the field, but nobody ever "hated", or wanted to eliminate them.
Without the internet the whole hating on somebody goes out the window. The biggest eruptions of sentiment were letters to the editors. Remember those?
Fully agree. I think 'hating' is potentially too strong of a word. Disliking is more appropriate in my mind. I cannot hate a person, maybe Maduro? Not really, yet I dislike him intensely as much as Putin, et al. Due to personal circumstances of my life, I have hated, wishing death even, but at the end, I have surmounted it, as hating, ruins you mind and life. Revenge will not fix that either. I disliked Senna for personal appreciation reasons, never met him nor knew him, just disliked his manners on the track. Yet, when I saw his movie I got a knot in my throat, and was deeply moved. Still don't like him. I may dislike Stroll for the platinum spoon in his mouth, yet he's potentially a swell guy, yet a BAD driver, and he's where he is because of his father, another person I dislike, just like some of his ilk. Nothing else, and that is potentially the 'hate' factor, when a spoiled child acts as such after being empowered without too much merit. The 'fun' of poking at him is just that. Regards, Alberto
From what you say, there are JEALOUS people envious of others. They release their frustration by berating someone on media. How pathetic is that !!!
I really don't know for a fact if they are JEALOUS, and frankly Scarlett..... I don't give a damn. They have nothing better to do, that is clear, and yes, pathetic. Meanwhile, let's have fun Regards, Alberto
Williams hired him as a driver. Yes he paid for his seat but ultimately it was an employer/employee relationship where he was hired. At least that's what many folks on here say when a driver wants to go against team orders: He is just an employee.
Even if I would hire Lance, I wouldn't go on social media to criticise him all the time to the point of obsession. There are plenty of people I wouldn't "hire", but I don't go on and on about them. There are different levels of talents in F1, I don't see the point of constantly picking on one guy because you don't like him. Do you recognise yourself in what I am saying ? You and @jgonzalesm6 are obsessed by Lance Stroll, and that's not healthy.
I'm perfectly healthy in mind, body, and soul. Your lucky that what you see here on FChat about Lance Stroll and his performance is just the tip of the iceberg. You should see the "hate" (as you call it) or criticism(as what most of it call it) Lance Stroll gets on YouTube. There's a plethora of videos and comments "hating" (again your words) but really critiquing against Lance Stroll.....so it's just nor here on FChat. The majority is on our side btw.....and I doubt you really care as most of us don't really care either. They're just opinions.
I don't remember anyone 'hating' a driver UNLESS they thought a driver was responsible for the death of another one. Patrese>Peterson, Mass>Pironi>>Villeneuve, and for some reason a lot of people didn't like Mansell
The majority of people, including those on Fchat, are "hating" on Lance for being not good enough, undeserving, a danger to other drivers, oblivious and lacks any accountability. I would say these are fair points to not like the guy and think he should not be in Formula 1. However there are a few members on Fchat who support Lance because he's a rich kid from a rich family that has the money to buy a career in the pinnacle of motorsports. What is more reasonable, disapproving of the guy based on lack of performance, or supporting the guy based on his dad's ability to buy him a seat?
I wonder, would Lance were still be in F1 if he were just a pay driver for a team that his Dad did own?
Cannot vouch for the others, Villeneuve was my hero after Lauda, yet after speaking with Mass, and quite frankly, I was fortunate enough that we spoke quite at length about the incident for a very pleasant week-end, and he definitely admitted that he had no bearing of that terrible day. I genuinely felt awful about how he felt, and it was 20 or more years after the accident, still indelible from his mind as an eternal cross to bear. Pironi was not my favourite, even after knowing him quite well, and I'll leave it at that. Some may not agree with me, but think had to share my feelings about it. Thank you. Regards, Alberto
As an aside, there are 7K+ posts on Lance Stroll on this thread, and I assume there must be a reason for that. After all, no one genuinely 'hates' him, I think dislike with a passion, is more adequate. He must be a decent man, and can drive an F1, which puts him in a privileged category, regardless of all his critics, and bad adjectives he may have gained or earned. Regards, Alberto
That was poorly written. If Papa Stroll did not buy a team would Lance still be in F1? Would teams have switched to other pay drivers hoping for better return (on the track)?
NO! Or possibly a quite distant location on the grid, and if he brought bazillions in a very large bag.
You and I, and most everyone know this (it was not Mass' fault), I was talking about all the rabid 'fans'...
