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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    List of countries by GDP: Brazil 8th, Rwanda 139th LOL
     
  2. DeSoto

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    Brazil is an industrial power and a rising economy PLUS they have a long tradition in motorsport. But anyway, that is not what setting a grand prix is about. You see it as some kind of superfluous luxury because there are celebrities around the paddock and that, but it's more like a PR investment.

    My two cents, in case somebody is interested: I'd hate seeing a Rwanda GP at another anonymous guardrail labyrinth while Spa or Monza have to beg to Liberty for a place every year.
     
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  5. Mel Spillman

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    Great picture!!! Thanks for posting!!
     
  6. DF1

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    The issue for most teams is closer and closer now.............

    Wind tunnel transition complicating Aston 2025/26 plans

    It means the team is pressing on with work for 2025 while it can, with technical Director Dan Fallows telling the media recently as reported by Motorsport Week.


    "I’m sure lots of teams will do the same thing, but we’re absolutely focused on trying to make sure we can get AMR25 into the best shape as possible early on," he said when asked about an extra push to get 2025 development completed.

    “It’s going to be a challenge for everybody," he acknowledged. "Trying to split your resources, particularly next year when we can do work on both, is going to be a big challenge.
     
  7. jgonzalesm6

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  9. william

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  10. Mitch Alsup

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    I have a strict rule:: I do not buy tickets costing more than $100 period.

    I would rather put $100 of gasoline in my F355 and go out and drive.
     
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  11. DF1

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    The poor 'F1 bosses' suffered in traffic - how peasantly of them lol. Who cares. As if they are excluded from the rest of humanity. Did the UK run out of executive helo's?? Via BBC F1.

    Is there any new country that is being seriously considered for holding a grand prix? If it is, which grand prix is most vulnerable? - Park

    Thailand and South Korea are both under serious consideration for a date. And F1 is keen to hold a race in Africa. Attempts to find an agreement to return to Kyalami in South Africa foundered a couple of years ago, but F1 president Stefano Domenicali says he is evaluating a “serious” bid from Rwanda., external

    The obvious race to fall off the calendar would be the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, as the second event in Italy.

    But there has also been talk of rotating some of the European races - for example, Belgium and the Netherlands taking it in turns to host year to year.

    And Canada is under serious threat even for next year because the organisation is considered to have fallen below standards in recent years, and Montreal is under pressure to improve that.

    Even Silverstone needs to be careful - it was the scene of traffic chaos again this year, bringing back bad memories from the past. There were problems leaving the track on both Friday and Sunday, and many senior F1 figures and media were caught up in jams for hours.

    F1 was not happy at all, and wants to make sure that does not happen again.
     
  12. william

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    It looks like Liberty wants to wipe out completely European venues from the F1 calendar to make room for new remote locations, some with no motor racing tradition at all. Probably that would devalue totally the championship, but they don't seem to care.
     
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  13. Sempre_gilles

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    Well, if hardly anybody shows up for a F1 race in one of those new venues (because there is no local motorsport tradition) you automatically have solved the traffic jam problem;)
     
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  14. william

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    Yes, and COVID has shown that you can have GPs without spectators in the grandstands too !
     
  15. DF1

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    F1 a "closed chapter" for Porsche after failed Red Bull bid
    Porsche had been seeking a tie-in with Red Bull before talks broke down
     
  16. william

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    Porsche is already (successfully) engaged in so many categories, series and championships.

    They won't miss F1.
     
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    Agreed. Porsche is motorsports. Red Bull are idiots to have not made that partnership work.
     
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  18. jgonzalesm6

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    Porsche wanted TOO MUCH of the pie from RedBull. Both parties were clashing heads. It was inevitable to fail.

    Look at it from RedBulls perspective when someone comes into your business and wants a controlling stake in the business....it's just not going to work.
     
  19. william

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    Its Christian Horner who wrecked the gentlemen's agreement between Porsche and Dieter Mateschitz.
    In a 50/50 merger, Porsche would have been more than a PU supplier, but also have more influence in the team.
    Horner wanted to keep all control, and scuttled the negotiations after Mateschitz' passing.
    I think that was the beginning of his troubles with the management of the parent company.
     
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  20. william

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    Well, yes and no !!
    The team would have been 50/50 Red Bull/Porsche. In that case, it's only right that that Porsche should have a say in the management of the team, in view of the contribution they would have made and the money invested in the PU,
    The days of the silent partner are gone !!!
     
  21. DF1

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    Correct - The deal was 50% per side. The end of it was all Horner.
     
  22. xpensivewino

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    That’s too bad. Why would anyone want to have a partnership with the most successful motorsports brand in history? And have the financial backing of arguably the most profitable automotive brand? Dumb move by Horner
     
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  23. DF1

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    Horner is backed by the corrupt Thai 51% owners in the Corporation. Given the new PU effort and the success of the F1 team overall, he sold them on the idea of treating the F1 team as an important asset to the Company. Does RedBull need F1 to sell fizzy - crap infused water. Not at all. Its a sexy Corporate accoutrement.
     
  24. DeSoto

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    Well, to be honest, 50% of Red Bull must be an awful lot of money and back then Porsche needed Red Bull more than the other way around, so maybe Horner had a point.
     
  25. DF1

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    Porsche were to be a PU supplier. Certainly the team had value. Dieter viewed this as a sound partnership. I feel Horner saw a threat to his influence and future. Removing Horner, would be a potential to Porsche if required to move him along. Now its all on Horner and the Thai faction to get the PU right for the team.

    The question is how much of Porsche PU design has Audi used.
     
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