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Intermittent Brake failure on 458

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by eberro, Jul 16, 2015.

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  1. 338Lapua

    338Lapua Formula Junior

    Sep 5, 2015
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    Got it and thanks for the info. Now I understand where to look as it may be something for us 458 owners to keep track of.
     
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  2. TUTTSF

    TUTTSF Karting

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    So. Cal
    #177 TUTTSF, Aug 19, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2020
    UPDATE:

    Picked up the 458 today (8/19) and everything seems normal with the car.

    The tech showed where the part melted and it was right at the "T" in the hose but then mentioned that they have put many headers on 458's and I'm the first one with this melted hose.

    What I do notice after putting the headers back full exhaust is the temps are higher than normal when going slow and when the fans kick on it has a hard time bringing down the temp needle


    Going on some canyon runs the next 2 weekends so will give another update after
     
  3. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    My Spider was 2013........We now know what the problem has been, as Ferrari have recalled the cars.
     
  4. LiteBrite

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    What was the problem?
     
  5. LiteBrite

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    Ya what’s the fix? Are you talking about the brake fluid cap? This problem that I also have feels more like a booster failure. It happens every time I drive but not every time I brake.
     
  6. LiteBrite

    LiteBrite Rookie

    May 2, 2022
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    So I have this same hard brake problem. You can replicate it when you cold start the car and when it’s at high idle you hit the brake pedal a couple times. The pedal will be become super stiff which means it’s definitely a vacuum related problem. Bad brake booster or some kind of solenoid attached to the brake booster. You are basically losing all brake assist. This sucks when going really fast
     
  7. x z8

    x z8 Formula 3

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    I had a 2014 458 Spider purchased new and sold a few months ago to Ferrari with 14k miles. On three different occasions the brakes failed similar to others on this thread. I reported it to Ferrari- they could never find anything wrong. I thought I might eventually kill myself in it so I sold it.
     
  8. LiteBrite

    LiteBrite Rookie

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    Ya I don’t understand
    how this isn’t more talked about and figured out by now. It’s 100% an assist issue. I love the car but man I’m scared to drive it into turns
     
  9. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    The car only had 4000 kms on the clock. I bought it used, but the previous owner had driven 1000kms. The service centre could not conclude anything because the police took the car after the accident. Car was 30 minutes into a gentle drive, was plenty warm, but not hot at all, as it had not gone over 30kms until I applied the brakes at 90kms and found the pedal hard and with seriously compromised deceleration. Up until then the car had given no sign of brake problems. I had driven for 30 years at that stage in my life and had driven many exotic cars on the road and track. ( no offence taken) No mistakes....Brake booster let go.
     
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  10. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    100 % !!!! I could not agree more. Mine took the life of an innocent man.
     
  11. todd cloud

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    you are not real
    your posts are not real
     
  12. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    What are you talking about ????....Read the press about the Hong Kong accident in June 2015 !! I am VERY real.
     
  13. todd cloud

    todd cloud Formula 3

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    You are referring to the Barclays bank executive that was being a complete ass in a Hong Kong parking deck in RACE mode at 3AM when he lost control of his 458 and killed a parking deck attendant. He claimed his breaks failed. He went to trial and employed the ample resources of a bank executive to secure the best legal representation available. Ferrari experts were brought in and a lengthy trial took place. The court utterly and completely rejected the “my brakes failed” argument and sentenced him to 2 years in prison for involuntary manslaughter. He was released from prison in 2018. Whereabouts currently unknown.

    I, along with everyone else on Earth, would like to request that you stop talking about subjects you know absolutely nothing about.

    There was a time not long ago when the closes a person like you could come to a Ferrari would require a set of binoculars.

    I long for those days.
     
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  14. 05F430F1

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    Strong [emoji1434]

    And wow, someone finally got Todd to type full sentences and paragraphs too! WTF? The world is changing.

    *I like the simple “no” or “correct” responses AND he’s always right




    Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
     
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  15. todd cloud

    todd cloud Formula 3

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    yes
     
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  16. mdrums

    mdrums F1 Rookie

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    I had to like Todd's post...LOL
     
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  17. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    Todd....I don't know you, but it would be an understatement to say that you know more than nothing, apparently about everything.
    That accident involved a Deutsche Bank ( not Barclays) executive, with a 30 year unblemished driving record. It happened at 7 am ( not 3am) in the morning, under his building, when he was on the way to work. What you say about the trial, is as incorrect as your other plainly factually incorrect statements. I lived in Hong Kong for 8 years and know about 10000 times more about the intimate details of this case than you, so please stop embarrassing yourself by making statements that are so ridiculously incorrect that they can only be for the enjoyment of 5 year olds. The statements you made can be read on-line anywhere and still you get them wrong, which says everything about you.
    In my life, I have owned 8 Ferrari's, 3 Astons, 12 911's and numerous other exotic cars. My understanding of the automotive world makes yours look like your typical mono-syllabic and uneducated answer. Short and of little use.
    Why don't you take some time to read the links below to see that there is a real problem with these cars:

    https://thebrakereport.com/ferrari-brake-lawsuit-explained/
    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ferrari-is-sued-by-us-drivers-over-brake-defect-2024-03-19/
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-19/ferrari-sued-for-failing-to-fix-life-threatening-brake-defect?embedded-checkout=true

    I too long for the days when Sahelanthropus, ( you can Google it) such as yourself can return to their caves and stop attempting to interact with the serious and educated people on this forum, who have a solid grasp of the facts and of reality and who are attempting to stop each other being hurt of worse by our cars.
     
  18. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    By the way....The accident happened at the entrance to a car park, but the car had rolled, for 118 metres, with its brakes on ( CCTV footage shows the brake lights) on a public dual carriageway, underground, lit, dry and with no ingress or egress ......But why am I telling you......you don't care about the facts.
     
  19. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    And when I say...More than nothing...I mean...Little more than nothing.
     
  20. todd cloud

    todd cloud Formula 3

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    no
     
  21. todd cloud

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    The 458 and related model braking system have no issues
    Ignorant owners and poor maintenance and bottom feeding class action lawyers don’t change this fact
     
  22. x z8

    x z8 Formula 3

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    I owned my 2014 458SP for about 7 years- purchased new and not modified in any way. The car was always serviced by Ferrari per schedule. My car had a very dangerous intermittent brake issue that was never resolved so I sold it back to Ferrari. I have plenty of experience with sports cars for over 40 years.
     
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  23. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    There are so many. I personally know 9 owners who have lost their brakes on 458's and they all know others. There is absolutely no point in trying to engage Todd Clout about this. Just read his posts, it will tell you all you need to know about how much he knows on this topic ( which is nothing) and on most others things, which seems to be near nothing. He even gets simple facts, that are in the public domain, on the web and in print, completely incorrect. Why do us sensible and informed people even bother engaging with him. It is possible we enjoy seeing him self-flagellate in public.
    Maybe is a Bosch, brake booster engineer !!
    I am sure he is likely a 16 year old who has never and will never touch or drive a Ferrari.

    Todd....If you are reading this, reach out to Jeff Rose and his friends, who are part of one of the US class actions and ask him if he or any of the others are ignorant or if they believe there are no problems with the 458.
    Lawyers are only involved, on a no win, no fee basis, because they think there is a case to win.
    If there were no braking issues with 458's, why would the lawyers try? Just to waste their own time and firm's money? You clearly do not understand contingent funding.
    We know who is ignorant and it is definitely not the owners of the 458's in question.
     
  24. eberro

    eberro Karting

    Jun 23, 2015
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    Errr...What ?? I would say he is almost never right from what I have read and he can't even scrape data correctly from the internet without making a total hash of it and embarrassing him or her self. Celebrating his incompetence is odd and frankly, when we are talking about topics where people have lost their lives or their liberty, or their mental health, we should be much more careful and respectful of the facts.
     
  25. todd cloud

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    No
     

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